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Old Thu Apr 29, 2021, 08:14am
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Is that the actual IAABO question? A count isn't suspended (or, more accurately, allowance isn't made) when someone else dribbles in or moves to try for goal.
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Unfortunately, some officials, IAABO, and otherwise, have formed many rule "myths" in their mind that have "stuck" over time. Sad, but true, early returns show that about one of ten members who commented believe that the count should have been suspended.
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Here is the breakdown of the IAABO members that commented on the video: ... The count should have been suspended 17%.
Wow. It was worse than I expected.

I sure hope that IAABO doesn't waste horrible answers like this and addresses issues such as this (not just this one) in future educational resources.

Back in "junior high school" days, when I was teaching ninth grade Earth Science, I would give a multiple choice final exam (required for high school credit) and run an analysis of the "fill in the bubble" answer sheets to see which questions the students struggled with the most, and use this information to revise my lesson plans for the next school year.
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Old Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:17am
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I will also make this point. Unless there was a steal that took place right before the player, the Trail takes a really long time to get into the front court with all 10 players. Not a great display of hustle, even when he gets close into the front court, he has no sense of urgency.

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Old Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:38am
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... the Trail takes a really long time to get into the front court with all 10 players. Not a great display of hustle ...
He stopped in the backcourt to tie his shoe.
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Old Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:51am
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Wow. It was worse than I expected.

I sure hope that IAABO doesn't waste horrible answers like this and addresses issues such as this (not just this one) in future educational resources.
Really? 22% missed the PC foul and you're hoping they'll make sure that 3 second calls like this. I agree with your concept about them using the answers to make fixes, but, this just doesn't make my priority list.
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Old Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:51pm
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Really? 22% missed the PC foul and you're hoping they'll make sure that 3 second calls like this. I agree with your concept about them using the answers to make fixes, but, this just doesn't make my priority list.
Yeah, three seconds is a low priority call. Officials often kid that if three seconds was one's toughest call in a game, then one had a very easy game.

If you're referring to the "Fun With Legal Guarding Position" thread, that was a subjective judgment, somewhat challenging call for some, a call that at least one Forum member questioned.

While many calls have at least some subjective judgment component to them, this three second thread was mostly about simple rule knowledge, with one Forum member appropriately making fun of the simplicity of the rule highlighted in the video. This video did stand out when one compares the simplicity of the question and lack of complexity of the rule, relative to the high number of incorrect answers.

And I was not just referring to re-examining only this one incorrect answer issue. I'm pretty sure that IAABO can both walk and chew gum.

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... addresses issues such as this (not just this one) in future educational resources.
Also, in the overall scheme of things, this will be a relatively easy problem for IAABO to fix compared to other more complex subjective judgment problems.
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Old Sat May 01, 2021, 01:31pm
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Yeah, three seconds is a low priority call. Officials often kid that if three seconds was one's toughest call in a game, then one had a very easy game.

If you're referring to the "Fun With Legal Guarding Position" thread, that was a subjective judgment, somewhat challenging call for some, a call that at least one Forum member questioned.
I am, but I think you may be overstating how much disagreement there was. Mechanic guy said he got it wrong on the first look but then saw that it was a PC. I believe all other interesting discussion was about whether or not we should just guess if we didn't see something happen.
I agree that all block charges are subjective; but I don't agree it was close for officials who were voting after seeing a replay (potentially many times). If almost 1 in 4 officials thinks that's a charge after multiple views then I think IAABO has a problem. I'd note that these are officials doing the work to get better because they are looking at plays and commenting. My instinct is the number would be even worse among those who didn't take the poll.
As an impact to the game matter, not knowing the 3 second rule correctly and missing this call is pretty low. Missing block charges tends to be higher impact mistakes.
If I were basketball czar for a day, I'd change the rules test to be watching 100 videos like these and grade officials on that and videos like this one would be a small portion and videos like the other a large portion.
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Old Sat May 01, 2021, 02:08pm
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As an impact to the game matter, not knowing the 3 second rule correctly and missing this call is pretty low. Missing block charges tends to be higher impact mistakes.
Agree.

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... if three seconds was one's toughest call in a game, then one had a very easy game.

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If I were basketball czar for a day, I'd change the rules test to be watching 100 videos like these and grade officials on that and videos like this one would be a small portion and videos like the other a large portion.
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