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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:01am
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IAABO Make The Call Video

https://storage.googleapis.com/refqu...Oom8K4YtrW.mp4

Is this a block or a charge? Observe the play and make a decision as to what type of foul is committed on this play.

Two choices: This is a blocking foul. This is a player control foul.

My comment: This is a player control foul. Blue #30 had legal guarding position and White #20 used his right arm and shoulder to push Blue #30 in the torso and displace Blue #30. Did White #20 travel as he started his dribble drive?
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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:15am
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PC. No travel -- but the little hesitation did make that thought enter my mind.
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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:44am
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Too Close To Call, So Don't Call It ...

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No travel -- but the little hesitation did make that thought enter my mind.
If by, "No travel", you meant, "Too close to call, so don't call it", I agree.

After the same "thought enter(ed) my mind", I replayed the video at 1/4 speed (only available to IAABO members).

Endline angle. White #20 catches the ball with only his right foot on the floor and his left foot in the air, and then puts his left foot on the floor, making his right foot his pivot foot. He then lifts his right (pivot) foot before releasing the ball to start a dribble. Travel.

But again, this was at 1/4 speed and was replayed multiple times. If it's too close to call, don't call it.
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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:05am
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PC foul. The defender even stops moving and gets run over. This is one of the easier ones based on the endline angle. The Center guessed.

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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:17am
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Train Wreck ...

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The Center guessed.
Locally, we've been taught that when there's a train wreck, and when a call just has has to made, and when one is ill-prepared to make that call (for whatever reason, sudden surprise, bad angle, straight-lined, out of position, etc.), if there's contact on the defender's torso (as in this video), to make an educated guess and err on the side of calling a player control foul.
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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:30am
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I did not say to not make a call, but we default too often to the defender who did something wrong. This is a clear PC foul from the end-line look. That is not the look he had as the Center. And because he did not position adjust, he really did not see the play clearly. He was straight-lined. And as a philosophy when I have doubt, I am calling a PC foul because to me it cleans up your game better than calling a block. Then the offensive players think they can go into defenders no matter what and get calls. Again, just my opinion.

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Old Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:11am
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Travel was the first thing I thought. Replay shows that he lifts his right pivot foot before releasing the dribble.

Contact is definitely a PC.

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