The Upcoming Season WAYGD?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Isn't the other part of the problem that players will not be wearing masks and thus projecting droplets, to which officials will be exposed?

Great point. Now I'm concerned if I'm only wearing one of those "whistle pouches".

Concerned about me getting the virus and passing it to somebody else. Concerned about getting sick and suffering. Concerned about long lasting health effects after recovery. Concerned about dying. Concerned about dying while physically separated from family.

But it's "for the kids"? Sorry. Probably not today. Maybe later.

There's online learning. How about online officiating from the comfort and safety of my computer in my secret underground COVID shelter?

Zoom has a great "Raise Your Hand" feature, it's just like signaling to stop the clock.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I never quite understood the clock reference. It may be correct twice a day but at any other time, which is a huge majority of the time, it is incorrect, so much so, it is rendered useless. Ergo, no need for the clock at all.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bucky

I never quite understood the clock reference. It may be correct twice a day but at any other time, which is a huge majority of the time, it is incorrect, so much so, it is rendered useless.

Are you calling me useless?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

I never quite understood the clock reference. It may be correct twice a day but at any other time, which is a huge majority of the time, it is incorrect, so much so, it is rendered useless. Ergo, no need for the clock at all.

It does not mean you are right most of the time. Not sure what is hard about understanding this one.

Peace

[BillyMac]

It was just announced that all of our local IAABO board meetings in 2020-21 will be held via Zoom, probably starting in October or November.

That doesn't give me much confidence that high school basketball will be played in Connecticut this winter.

On a more positive note, I noticed that Halloween candy is on sale at Walmart, CVS, and Stop and Shop.

Instead of X-raying candy for needles and pins, parents will be asking for candy COVID testing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It was just announced that all of our local IAABO board meetings in 2020-21 will be held via Zoom, probably starting in October or November.

That doesn't give me much confidence that high school basketball will be played in Connecticut this winter.

On a more positive note, I noticed that Halloween candy is on sale at Walmart, CVS, and Stop and Shop.

Instead of X-raying candy for needles and pins, parents will be asking for candy COVID testing.

Well, that is all anyone is doing, Zoom meetings. I have been to more Zoom meetings in the last few months that I have met with anyone like I would for work. And I was at a camp this past weekend. I think large gatherings are not going to be the choice until it is necessary (meaning the games).

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by LRZ

If Cain was healthy when he went to the Tulsa rally and became sick shortly afterwards, it is a fair, reasonable inference that he may have been infected there. Open to disagreement, but certainly not disingenuous (deceitful, dishonest) at all.

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Whether or not I wear a mask while refereeing is only part of the equation. Isn't the other part of the problem that players will not be wearing masks and thus projecting droplets, to which officials will be exposed?

When I shop or pick up take-out, the employees are always masked. That is different from officiating, where players are not masked, and that would make the risk greater.

It would be possible to officiate a game while maintaining a 6' distance (or more).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

The inference is that he did not take it seriously or as a threat to his health and the health of others. He did not wear a mask there, he likely did not wear one any other place where people were around. We will never know exactly the place, but we know he went to a rally and wore nothing and openly thought it was not something to worry about (social media Tweets, even after he died ).

So if he got sick not taking it seriously, there are likely others that have been in the same situation and have died. Actually there are people in some positions that openly said it was not a big deal, later to find out they died too.

Peace

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

It is reasonable, perhaps not the only one, but one possibility among a number. Or he might have been exposed and infected on several of those occasions. But if he were mask-less in those other venues as well, the point is made, regardless.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Great point. Now I'm concerned if I'm only wearing one of those "whistle pouches".

Like when I'm about to hand the ball to an inbounder for a front court endlne throwin and he unintentionally coughs directly into my unmasked face.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, it isn't a reasonable inference, at least not any more than the dozen other places he may have been in the week or two prior to becoming sick. Where did he have dinner the day before he left for the rally? Where did he buy his groceries the day after he returned??

I've been going to grocery stores on a regular basis since the pandemic started. I've been going to restaurants since the end of May. In both of those situations I am easily able to socially distance myself. Cain was not socially distancing himself at the convention, nor were an overwhelming majority of the people who attended, not to mention no other activity he did prior or after would have him around that many people at one time in one space. So no, it is not reasonable nor intellectually honest to state his chances to have caught it at the Tulsa rally were not greater than at other venues, businesses, or facilities.

[ChuckS]

Also the time of exposure is very important. Time spent at the rally was way more than time spent at a supermarket.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ChuckS

Also the time of exposure is very important. Time spent at the rally was way more than time spent at a supermarket.

Exactly. I have also been to many restaurants and not once was I next to anyone but my wife or son on a regular basis. Not had the virus symptoms and my wife is a medical worker that spends many days with virus patients.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I've been going to grocery stores on a regular basis since the pandemic started. I've been going to restaurants since the end of May. In both of those situations I am easily able to socially distance myself. Cain was not socially distancing himself at the convention, nor were an overwhelming majority of the people who attended, not to mention no other activity he did prior or after would have him around that many people at one time in one space. So no, it is not reasonable nor intellectually honest to state his chances to have caught it at the Tulsa rally were not greater than at other venues, businesses, or facilities.

You're assuming what else he did or did not do in the days before an after the rally. Unless you know something I don't, you can't make any claim that it was more likely from the rally. Maybe he visited a nursing home in NYC.