Three D1 Refs Suing NCAA & Alliance Affiliated Leagues

[Player989random]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would not be upset. But not sure much is going to change unless the NCAA completely takes over. And I heard some interesting things about those camps they had all over the country.

Peace

Would you care to share? When those camps were first mentioned a few years ago, I was curious what would make them any different from your standard D1 camp.

And I agree with Raymond: If this can destroy the camp system, I'm all for it. But if this gets any traction I'm sure the NCAA will settle. Imagine how many full-time hires they'd have to make for every sport.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Player989random

But if this gets any traction I'm sure the NCAA will settle. Imagine how many full-time hires they'd have to make for every sport.

They might very well do so as the dollar amount in the grand scheme of things is very small. Conversely, this would open the door to other ostracized officials filing similar lawsuits, perhaps even a small class action suit.

So either the NCAA would have to come up with objective analysis now (doubtful they have it), or it may have to eat a small class action suit valued at a couple million bucks while becoming more analytical in their assignment rationales going forward.



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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Player989random

Imagine how many full-time hires they'd have to make for every sport.

Why would the employees have to be full time? Maybe I'm not understanding your point.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Player989random

Would you care to share? When those camps were first mentioned a few years ago, I was curious what would make them any different from your standard D1 camp.

I was told that many of the camps did not have very good competition or were not a very good competition to show people's true abilities. They were working sometimes not even high school varsity level players and certainly not any college-level players. But again this was the first year of it, so maybe that will be worked out if they move forward.

Originally Posted by Player989random

And I agree with Raymond: If this can destroy the camp system, I'm all for it. But if this gets any traction I'm sure the NCAA will settle. Imagine how many full-time hires they'd have to make for every sport.

I do not think necessarily full-time officials solve this issue. I am just saying that the camp system I think undermines a true evaluation as some camps are not run to hire people, they are used to make money for the supervisor. I think it would be better if the big conferences got involved and spent money to invite people that could seriously work their level. But that would be a longer view of the role of your staff and that is not in the financial incentive for most conferences even though they make millions and billions of dollars in sports like football and basketball.

Peace

[Player989random]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Why would the employees have to be full time? Maybe I'm not understanding your point.

Honestly, it's hard to imagine the reffing landscape where we aren't independent contractors.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think necessarily full-time officials solve this issue. I am just saying that the camp system I think undermines a true evaluation as some camps are not run to hire people, they are used to make money for the supervisor. I think it would be better if the big conferences got involved and spent money to invite people that could seriously work their level. But that would be a longer view of the role of your staff and that is not in the financial incentive for most conferences even though they make millions and billions of dollars in sports like football and basketball.

Oh I feel you there. I did a camp with Jr NBA for a D2 tryout, and that was some of the worst basketball I've ever officiated. Games were cancelled left and right. It was awful. But I've no doubt that the supervisor cashed out on it.