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Old Thu Jan 30, 2020, 09:24pm
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Jump ball/back court violation?

From my varsity boys game las night:

A1 and/or B1 tap opening toss into Bs front court near division line. Ball bounces on floor in Bs front court. B2, completely in front court, TAPS ball directly back to B3 standing in Bs back court. Violation?
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:01pm
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From my varsity boys game las night:

A1 and/or B1 tap opening toss into Bs front court near division line. Ball bounces on floor in Bs front court. B2, completely in front court, TAPS ball directly back to B3 standing in Bs back court. Violation?
No. Tapping or batting the ball does not constitute player control by NFHS definition. A player must hold or dribble the ball before a backcourt violation can occur.
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Old Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:08pm
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Thanks. That was my gut reaction. Unfortunately, we kicked it and called a back court violation...then proceeded to set the possession arrow to A. Lesson learned
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:07am
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Change it up a little...

If B2 had possessed the ball while airborne from the FC and landed in the BC, it would be a BC violation. Since the jump ball ended when the ball touched the floor, 9-9-3 is no longer applicable.
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:43am
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Change it up a little...

If B2 had possessed the ball while airborne from the FC and landed in the BC, it would be a BC violation. Since the jump ball ended when the ball touched the floor, 9-9-3 is no longer applicable.
Interesting twist. I wonder how many officials would wrap their heads around the:
1) jump ball ending
2) player control attained in FC and
3) landing in BC, causing the violation

Thats a lot to process in a split second.
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:05pm
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Interesting twist. I wonder how many officials would wrap their heads around the:

1) jump ball ending

2) player control attained in FC and

3) landing in BC, causing the violation



Thats a lot to process in a split second.
That's why we get paid the big bucks.

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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 12:30pm
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Change it up a little...

If B2 had possessed the ball while airborne from the FC and landed in the BC, it would be a BC violation. Since the jump ball ended when the ball touched the floor, 9-9-3 is no longer applicable.
Good one...I had not thought of that. That is another reason to change the rule to be simple and consistent as I've said before.
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 01:50pm
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... change the rule to be simple and consistent ...
Yeah. Like forget the jump ball and giving the ball to the visitors to start the game.

God invented the alternating possession arrow for a good reason. Let's take advantage of his infinite wisdom.

Preemptive reply to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Shut up.
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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 02:24pm
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yeah. Like forget the jump ball and giving the ball to the visitors to start the game.

Satan invented the alternating possession arrow for a good reason. Let's take advantage of his infinite wisdom.

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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 09:53pm
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Jump ball/back court violation?

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That's why we get paid the big bucks.

What are these big bucks that you speak of? Remember, most of us only work HS games.



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Old Fri Jan 31, 2020, 10:18pm
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Shoot, I've been on IR since Nov. 20th, I'm just an internet official this season.

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"How can you win? We have all the best basketball players up here." Satan grinned slyly back up to St. Peter and said, "How can we lose? We have all the officials down here!"
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