What options does a coach have?

[Raymond]

Well, so much for that nonsensical philosophy that coaches should ensure CE situations don't occur, otherwise they deserve getting the short end of the stick the CE rules are applied.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Well, so much for that nonsensical philosophy that coaches should ensure CE situations don't occur, otherwise they deserve getting the short end of the stick the CE rules are applied.

Where did that come from? I've never heard of that before.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Where did that come from? I've never heard of that before.

A theme in this forum from conversations all the way back to when I joined this group. Folks reason that CE rules are written a certain way is to ensure coaches are honest and point out the error to the officials and if they don't it's their fault when they get the short end of the stick (i.e.: team gets free throws they aren't entitled to, CE is recognized while other team is in possession, their free throws get wiped off, and POI is a throw-in for the opposing team, so the team that got foul essentially loses both points and possession).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

A theme in this forum from conversations all the way back to when I joined this group. Folks reason that CE rules are written a certain way is to ensure coaches are honest and point out the error to the officials and if they don't it's their fault when they get the short end of the stick (i.e.: team gets free throws they aren't entitled to, CE is recognized while other team is in possession, their free throws get wiped off, and POI is a throw-in for the opposing team, so the team that got foul essentially loses both points and possession).

Whether that's a *reason* or not, it is an *effect*, and, in my view, a good one.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Whether that's a *reason* or not, it is an *effect*, and, in my view, a good one.

A lot of good it did in the OP. It's always been a cop out, IMO, so officials can blame others when a team gets screwed out of possession.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

A lot of good it did in the OP. It's always been a cop out, IMO, so officials can blame others when a team gets screwed out of possession.

If officials blame others for missing this, then I agree. If officials thank others for pointing it out and preventing a CF, then I disagree.

My experience has been the latter.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

A lot of good it did in the OP. It's always been a cop out, IMO, so officials can blame others when a team gets screwed out of possession.

Well, the errors in this situation are misapplication of the rules directly by the officials. That isn't the kind of situation I've ever referred to.

My prior point on having the rules such that it motivates a team to point out the error are based on a scorekeeping error providing the officials with an incorrect foul count.

When the officials simply screw it up, not much can be said about that.

[SNIPERBBB]

Yep, on a rule issue you are up a creek. Especially in a no-protest state as Ohio is. Hopefully we never get to the point where we have to rule books in our pocket or at the table like football or baseball and softball had gotten to. Though I'm sure we've all had cases where we'd love to show coaches the rule book.