Louisville/Kentucky Coaching Box T

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

At 4:23 in the second half Calipari gets hit with a Class B TF for being outside his box after a warning. A POE this year in NCAA properly enforced by the crew.

I never want to hear the “college officials don’t enforce (x, y, and z)” nonsense again when I still can’t get fellow high school officials to keep coaches in their box.

The reality, a lot of this stuff is coming from the top. And JD used video evidence to drive the point home. And because JD has made it clear he is not giving tournament assignments to people that cannot get plays right or follow the standards they set. So this stuff happens. And bench decorum was big at the meetings I attended and I am not at all a D1 official.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The reality, a lot of this stuff is coming from the top. And JD used video evidence to drive the point home. And because JD has made it clear he is not giving tournament assignments to people that cannot get plays right or follow the standards they set. So this stuff happens. And bench decorum was big at the meetings I attended and I am not at all a D1 official.

Peace

I am with you. I just can't stand the narrative that the higher-level officials turn a blind eye to obvious rules infractions, especially when the lower-level officials who make that claim don't enforce the same rules in the games they work. I am not saying there isn't any room for improvement, but the fact that this rule and POE (which many would say "has nothing to do with the game") was properly enforced late in a game of this magnitude speaks volumes, IMO.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I am with you. I just can't stand the narrative that the higher-level officials turn a blind eye to obvious rules infractions, especially when the lower-level officials who make that claim don't enforce the same rules in the games they work. I am not saying there isn't any room for improvement, but the fact that this rule and POE (which many would say "has nothing to do with the game") was properly enforced late in a game of this magnitude speaks volumes, IMO.

I cannot stand the narrative that only HS officials call the game a certain way either. I have been doing this long enough to see officials simply say, "I do not care about the coaching box and I do not know why (name is taken out) cares either?

Then these will be the same officials wondering why they cannot work certain postseason assignments or why they cannot get the right holiday tournament or featured shootout.

Sometimes the path of least resistance does not do you justice. And I am glad to see the official take action, but high school officials certainly are not doing a lot of giving Ts either.

Peace

[bas2456]

I'm a high school official and the vast majority of my games are in 2-man. While the ball is in play the coaches box is among the least of my worries, as I'm either trail/lead with my back (mostly) to the bench, lead focused on post play, or trail opposite focused on an on-ball matchup.

I have ushered a few coaches back into the box during a dead ball, and as someone else pointed out above, mostly they don't realize they're out of the box. Never really had an issue. Not saying that it shouldn't be, just relaying my experience.

[ilyazhito]

I actually gave a coach a warning for being outside the coaching box in a holiday tournament game. I noticed he was outside the box, and told him he needed to get back in thr box. He said something sarcastic along the lines of "Worry about the game, not where I am." I gave him a behavioral warning. If it were college, he'd receive a coaching box warning.

[bucky]

Hmm, funny people complain and will go out of their way to enforce coaches boxes horizontally but what about vertically? Every coach steps inbounds at one point or another. No one mentions that stuff.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

Hmm, funny people complain and will go out of their way to enforce coaches boxes horizontally but what about vertically? Every coach steps inbounds at one point or another. No one mentions that stuff.

You just mentioned it. How are you dealing with it in your games?