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Old Sun Dec 29, 2019, 10:03pm
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At 4:23 in the second half Calipari gets hit with a Class B TF for being outside his box after a warning. A POE this year in NCAA properly enforced by the crew.

I never want to hear the “college officials don’t enforce (x, y, and z)” nonsense again when I still can’t get fellow high school officials to keep coaches in their box.
The problem is you can't say it is consistently enforced when coaches are out of their boxes several times per game in almost every game without any warning being given. Having a handful of examples just isn't sufficient to prove it is getting enforced.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:35am
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The problem is you can't say it is consistently enforced when coaches are out of their boxes several times per game in almost every game without any warning being given. Having a handful of examples just isn't sufficient to prove it is getting enforced.
I rarely see coaches on TV going outside the 38-foot line without it being addressed in some way. Calipari himself has received multiple official warnings this season; he didn't even pretend to be surprised that he got whacked on Saturday. I suppose it's possible I'm just not paying enough attention, but ever since the box expanded it seems this issue is a lot less prevalent. And in the small college games I work, I can assure you it is expected that we enforce it just as JD Collins expects it.

On the other hand, I seldom see high school officials putting wandering coaches back in the box. I gave a HS coach a warning recently and he acted like I had shot his firstborn son (I reported it as a coaching box warning when it probably should have been a behavior warning). If NFHS expanded to 38 feet it would probably be helpful, but that won't happen.

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Old Mon Dec 30, 2019, 09:51am
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If NFHS expanded to 38 feet it would probably be helpful, but that won't happen.

That will never happen when most HS courts are 84 feet long. That would leave only 8 feet of neutral ground in the middle. Most tables are at wider than that.

At most, to be equitable with NCAA, you could expand the NFHS box to 33ft.




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Old Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:36am
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... I seldom see high school officials putting wandering coaches back in the box.
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That will never happen when most HS courts are 84 feet long. That would leave only 8 feet of neutral ground in the middle. Most tables are at wider than that.
Since the NFHS allowed high school coaches to wander down to the endline several years ago, I don't pay too much attention to the other end of the coaching box unless the coach is in front of the table. I usually notice this before reporting fouls and I don't report the foul until I push (with hand gestures and orally, "Back in the box coach") the coach back into his coaching box. Almost all comply, but if they don't, they'll get an "official" warning. Oft times they really don't know that they're out of the box, they're enthusiastically watching the game, the players, the officials, not the lines on the court.
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Old Mon Dec 30, 2019, 12:46pm
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Maybe if NFHS would finally get rid of the seatbelt rule after a TF, the 28-foot box would get enforced more strictly?
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Maybe if NFHS would finally get rid of the seatbelt rule after a TF, the 28-foot box would get enforced more strictly?

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