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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 11:49am
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Off-Setting Fighting Technical Fouls ...

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The two Technical fouls against A1 and B2 are considered a False Double Foul and no shots are taken for the Technicals
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You may be confusing this with "off-setting" technical fouls in a fight?

There has to be a fight (flagrant fouls, disqualifications, etc.) for this to happen.

I don't believe that "off-setting" technical fouls (no free throws) can occur outside of a fight.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 02:55pm
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It's possible. A1 scores and says, "Can't stop that!". B2: "F*** you!" Here is another example of offsetting technical fouls, without a fight.

However, because the personal foul was followed by a technical foul, both fouls must be penalized. The third foul in the sequence (the second technical foul) must be enforced after the previous two fouls, because the previous fouls were enforced, making it a false double foul situation. The POI principle only applies to true double foul situations or simultaneous foul situations under NFHS rules.

Disclaimer: POI also applies to other situations, such as inadvertent whistles, simultaneous free throw violations, and correctable errors. However my previous paragraph only mentioned foul situations.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 03:09pm
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It's possible. A1 scores and says, "Can't stop that!". B2: "F*** you!" Here is another example of offsetting technical fouls, without a fight.

However, because the personal foul was followed by a technical foul, both fouls must be penalized. The third foul in the sequence (the second technical foul) must be enforced after the previous two fouls, because the previous fouls were enforced, making it a false double foul situation. The POI principle only applies to true double foul situations or simultaneous foul situations under NFHS rules.

Disclaimer: POI also applies to other situations, such as inadvertent whistles, simultaneous free throw violations, and correctable errors. However my previous paragraph only mentioned foul situations.
There is no such thing as 'offsetting technical fouls'. Sometimes, the penalties offset, but that isn't what the fouls are called.

I believe your play is a double technical foul...both happened approximately the same time and were against each other. No FTs for the double T. Shoot the 1+1 normally.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 04:52pm
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It's possible. A1 scores and says, "Can't stop that!". B2: "F*** you!" Here is another example of offsetting technical fouls, without a fight.
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Two players jawing at each other enough to get T'd are going to be charged with a double technical. In the OP's situation, the second technical came 30 seconds after the first.
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Old Wed Dec 18, 2019, 08:45pm
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[QUOTE=ilyazhito;1036121]It's possible. A1 scores and says, "Can't stop that!". B2: "F*** you!" Here is another example of offsetting technical fouls, without a fight.

However, because the personal foul was followed by a technical foul, both fouls must be penalized. The third foul in the sequence (the second technical foul) must be enforced after the previous two fouls, because the previous fouls were enforced, making it a false double foul situation./QUOTE]

If you are talking about your situation, and not the OP, I disagree. In your situation, you have a single foul, followed by a double foul. You don't need to try to "offset" the first two that happened. NO FTs for the double foul, and resume with the administration of the single foul.
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