Jump ball picked up by jumper

[ilyazhito]

Camron, I cannot rely on the table crew to do things correctly, especially below the varsity level. There have been times where either the table does not keep the AP arrow, or they do not change the arrow properly. Because I need to check that the table is doing things correctly, I need to remember the AP sequence myself. Jump balls would give officials as well as the table 1 less headache to worry about. Coaches then won't be able to claim that "the refs gave the wrong team the ball" when they aren't paying attention.

In NBA mechanics, the official with the best toss administers all jump balls, so there should be no issues with bad tosses affecting the jump ball result. NFHS and NCAA rules can adopt something similar if jump balls outside the center circle get reintroduced. On the off-chance that the ball is tossed badly, the tableside non-tossing official can call the toss back, and the toss will be repeated.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

... below the varsity level. There have been times where either the table does not keep the AP arrow.

Everyone on my local board has been strongly encouraged to keep an extra whistle in our pockets and switch it with the arrow. We've been doing this since 1985 (post ancient times). We teach our rookie officials this procedure. We use this as a backup in our high school varsity games.

Middle schools often don't have a possession arrow at the table, and almost never keep the alternating possession in the scorebook, so this procedure becomes quite important. Sure, we could just memorize who gets the next arrow, but it's just as easy to switch the whistle in our pocket. After doing this for thirty-five years, it's become automatic, deeply ingrained, second nature.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Camron, I cannot rely on the table crew to do things correctly, especially below the varsity level. There have been times where either the table does not keep the AP arrow, or they do not change the arrow properly. Because I need to check that the table is doing things correctly, I need to remember the AP sequence myself. Jump balls would give officials as well as the table 1 less headache to worry about. Coaches then won't be able to claim that "the refs gave the wrong team the ball" when they aren't paying attention.

That is why I said you check that they switch it once the AP throwin is done. If they don't switch it, stop the game and have them switch it. If you do that, you don't need to remember what it was. By RULE, the arrow is kept at the table. Get something there (it doesn't have to be a formal light-up arrow), get in the habit of managing it.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

If they don't switch it, stop the game and have them switch it.

Protip: never stop the game to fix the arrow. Do it at the next dead ball. The best refs find ways to fix things (clock, arrow, fouls, etc) without anyone noticing.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Protip: never stop the game to fix the arrow. Do it at the next dead ball. The best refs find ways to fix things (clock, arrow, fouls, etc) without anyone noticing.

Maybe. I try to get it switched without stopping the game by telling the table in flight, but I'm not waiting 3-4 minutes to get it fixed if I can't get them to fix it in flight.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

... never stop the game to fix the arrow. Do it at the next dead ball. The best refs find ways to fix things (clock, arrow, fouls, etc) without anyone noticing.

I find a way to fix the arrow without stopping the game and with everybody noticing, "CHANGE THE ARROW".

Capitals and bold means loud, right?

[DRJ1960]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I find a way to fix the arrow without stopping the game and with everybody noticing, "CHANGE THE ARROW".

Capitals and bold means loud, right?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

In NBA mechanics, the official with the best toss administers all jump balls, so there should be no issues with bad tosses affecting the jump ball result.

This is absolutely the most ludicrous assertion you have ever written.

Aren't you aware of the traditional game of 'Rock, Paper, Scissors' that takes place in the NBA pregame meeting that determines who has the honor of tossing for jump balls?