NBA protest and NBA officiating embarrassment

[so cal lurker]

Protest denied, despite NBA finding that referees mis-applied the coaching challenge rule.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...edium=referral

[robbie]

"While agreeing that the referees misapplied the rules, Commissioner Silver determined that the Rockets had sufficient time to overcome the error during the remainder of the fourth quarter and two subsequent overtime periods and thus the extraordinary remedy of granting a game protest was not warranted."

Yes, an embarrassment!!!!

[Nevadaref]

So the officials missed the fact that a goal was scored by the ball passing through the basket, which many people understand given the odd nature of the action, but what cannot be defended is then kicking the coach’s challenge rule which would have allowed them to fix this mistake. There is no excuse for not knowing the rules at the level that one officiates.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So the officials missed the fact that a goal was scored by the ball passing through the basket, which many people understand given the odd nature of the action, but what cannot be defended is then kicking the coach’s challenge rule which would have allowed them to fix this mistake. There is no excuse for not knowing the rules at the level that one officiates.

For which they are being disciplined.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Raymond

For which they are being disciplined.

Doesn't matter for him.

He's one of those low-level officials who wants his pound of flesh whenever he sees NBA or D1 guys make a mistake.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So the officials missed the fact that a goal was scored by the ball passing through the basket, which many people understand given the odd nature of the action, but what cannot be defended is then kicking the coach’s challenge rule which would have allowed them to fix this mistake. There is no excuse for not knowing the rules at the level that one officiates.

You really think this was an issue of not knowing the rule? Seriously? Not knowing the rule? Not the fact that they might not have felt the ball went through the basket at all? The fact that Harden chased the ball like he did not believe the basket was good either?

Again, like said, this is a once in a lifetime situation. Rarely do you ever see a basket not go through the basket-like this, let alone wrap around and come out upwards.

Yes it was a mistake. I will debate that there is no excuse either as many things looked funny that you do not see in games. And the fact an official acts like this is a common occurrence or that this is something that can happen on a regular basis is kind of laughable.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You really think this was an issue of not knowing the rule? Seriously? Not knowing the rule? Not the fact that they might not have felt the ball went through the basket at all? The fact that Harden chased the ball like he did not believe the basket was good either?

I think you missed a piece there. The rule knowledge issue isn't about the basket scoring, but about the application of the coach challenge and what could be challenged and when. Unfortunately, the article doesn't explain much about the actual rule and where the mistake was in denying the coach challenge. I'd really like to hear the full story and full reasoning.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

I think you missed a piece there. The rule knowledge issue isn't about the basket scoring, but about the application of the coach challenge and what could be challenged and when. Unfortunately, the article doesn't explain much about the actual rule and where the mistake was in denying the coach challenge. I'd really like to hear the full story and full reasoning.

Even that is a new rule. Even that piece if not been said one way or the other what was misapplied. There are many rules that come into play that are not well thought out and that is why many did not like the replay challenges in the first place. Officials at all levels make mistakes and this is no different. I just think it is funny how some people act when a mistake is made like they never make mistakes or never made mistakes in their career. I know I have and learned from them and likely did not make those mistakes again.

Peace

[robbie]

You guys are missing the point.
At least MY point.
I can live with all the mistakes.
Didn’t think it went in...
Reviewable or not...
Challenge legit...
Etc...

Then a proper protest was filed and the commissioner stated that the protest was correct.
BUT we are not going to uphold it because the offended had enough time to make up the 2 points.

Yes, embarrassment!!!

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by robbie

"While agreeing that the referees misapplied the rules, Commissioner Silver determined that the Rockets had sufficient time to overcome the error during the remainder of the fourth quarter and two subsequent overtime periods and thus the extraordinary remedy of granting a game protest was not warranted."

Yes, an embarrassment!!!!

I agree, your posts are an embarrassment.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...edium=referral

"... the crew informed the coaching staff that a basket interference violation had been called on Harden."

[bucky]

I fail to understand why the rules do not allow the officials do replay any odd situation. At times, strange things happen and, due to their oddity, we are unsure how to react. For any moment like that, why not allow, at the discretion of the officials, to review something. Everybody in the world was confused when the play happened, including the officials. Why not make it something they can review at their discretion? Problem solved.

I always thought something similar should be in the NFL and other sports. Think of its usefulness in last year's Saint's playoff game.

Agree/disagree?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

I fail to understand why the rules do not allow the officials do replay any odd situation. At times, strange things happen and, due to their oddity, we are unsure how to react. For any moment like that, why not allow, at the discretion of the officials, to review something. Everybody in the world was confused when the play happened, including the officials. Why not make it something they can review at their discretion? Problem solved.

I always thought something similar should be in the NFL and other sports. Think of its usefulness in last year's Saint's playoff game.

Agree/disagree?

For one, as much as people say they like replay, they really do not like replay to be applied. So if you say they can look at anything, we will have debates about what they can look at all the time. So you have to have some parameters, just like all levels do. You want officials looking at every foul and taking several minutes to figure out if that foul really happened?

This was such an unusual situation and I would suspect most have never seen a situation like this and probably have never seen it like that in any game they have personally officiated.

And people bring up the Saints game, but there were several aspects of that play that were debatable (this is why you cannot rely on the sports media for officiating situations). The ball might have been tipped and even a possibility of the ball not being in the area at the time of contact (which matters BTW), all likely played a role in the original call. And now they do not overturn any PI and people are mad when they don't and when they have overturned the call which is rare under those new NFL rules.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by bucky

I fail to understand why the rules do not allow the officials do replay any odd situation. At times, strange things happen and, due to their oddity, we are unsure how to react. For any moment like that, why not allow, at the discretion of the officials, to review something. Everybody in the world was confused when the play happened, including the officials. Why not make it something they can review at their discretion? Problem solved.

Solved? Are you kidding? So every close call, the coach is going to be barking that the R should go review it? Best way to improve video review is to abolish it. (And while you're at it, get off my lawn . . . )

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

And while you're at it, get off my lawn . . . )

... and don't make me get out the hose.