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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 12:54pm
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I understand some of the roles of replay, but did anyone think that the out-of-bounds replay that resulted in Virginia getting the ball back was not what they had in mind? No way that is ever called Virginia's ball earlier in the game, but now it is. Imagine trying to sell that call to a coach? Reminded me of a play at the end of a Husker lady basketball game a few years ago. Nebraska down 1, missed a shot, the opponent rebounded the ball with about 25 seconds left. Nebraska girl went to strip the ball from the rebounder, hit her in the wrist and forearm, knocking the ball loose and immediately out-of-bounds. No foul called and ball was given to opponent. Nebraska asked for a review and got the ball back since opponent last to touch it (Nebraska never did touch it- they hit the arm). Nebraska scores and wins the game, and you could tell the official in question knew this situation was unfair to the opponent....
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 12:56pm
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Could not agree more, replay got this one right for all the wrong reasons!


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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 12:58pm
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The conundrum of replay review.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 01:05pm
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I understand some of the roles of replay, but did anyone think that the out-of-bounds replay that resulted in Virginia getting the ball back was not what they had in mind? No way that is ever called Virginia's ball earlier in the game, but now it is. Imagine trying to sell that call to a coach? Reminded me of a play at the end of a Husker lady basketball game a few years ago. Nebraska down 1, missed a shot, the opponent rebounded the ball with about 25 seconds left. Nebraska girl went to strip the ball from the rebounder, hit her in the wrist and forearm, knocking the ball loose and immediately out-of-bounds. No foul called and ball was given to opponent. Nebraska asked for a review and got the ball back since opponent last to touch it (Nebraska never did touch it- they hit the arm). Nebraska scores and wins the game, and you could tell the official in question knew this situation was unfair to the opponent....
It happens multiple times a season and they haven't seen fit to change the rule yet. So, live with it.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 01:07pm
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Replay gets implemented to correct obvious errors. Unfair plays happens because of the limitations on the review. Replay expands. Rinse, repeat.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 01:58pm
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Nebraska ... missed a shot, the opponent rebounded the ball ... Nebraska girl went to strip the ball from the rebounder, hit her in the wrist and forearm, knocking the ball loose and immediately out-of-bounds. No foul called and ball was given to opponent ...
Here in my little corner of Connecticut, that's the way we used to call our high school games a few decades ago before every player's grandmother recorded the games on their cell phones and posted the videos all over the internet.

Not an error, we did it on purpose, and it was accepted by most. One coach was happy because his player doesn't get called for a possible foul, and the other coach was happy to get the ball out of bounds for a throwin.

It was a win win situation, that we can't call anymore with all the video available. Now we either call the foul, or give the ball to the team that didn't last touch the ball.

No more winking. No more nodding.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 03:01pm
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That effectively undid Texas Tech, which went into the huddle discussing tying or going ahead, and left the huddle on defense and in foul mode.

Steratore even talked himself in circles on it once he realized how it was going to (unfortunately) unfold.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 04:21pm
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That effectively undid Texas Tech, which went into the huddle discussing tying or going ahead, and left the huddle on defense and in foul mode.

Steratore even talked himself in circles on it once he realized how it was going to (unfortunately) unfold.
Cuz Steretore was on a Michigan game I think two years ago where it was knocked out by the defender but he told the broadcast crew there were “two frames” of the offensive player touching it last, hence the overturn.

It’s BS and the rule needs to be written to accommodate this kind of play IMO.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 04:30pm
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Hey, the coaches wanted these rules, so now they got it. Now live with the consequences. You think you have to get every little detail right and if you cannot handle the fact that then change it back. But this is what replay is. You will catch every little detail potentially in these bigger games and force the officials to get it right.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 06:03pm
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I'm not sure that during the regular season, they have the right camera angle to change that...maybe, maybe not.

With all 3,298 cameras they had last night, ultimately they got it right. I agreed with the change, but I also see where you're coming from. Same thing happens in baseball when a runner slides in and beats the tag, but comes off the base for a split second while the fielder keeps the tag on.

Is he out? By the letter, yes. By the spirit? Not so sure. But rules is rules.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 06:24pm
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Wasn’t there an NFHS ruling a few years back that stated B1 causes the ball to be out of bounds when slapping it out of A1’s hands even if the ball technically is in contact with A1’s hand last before going out of bounds?

Can someone help find that ruling?
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 08:49pm
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Wasn’t there an NFHS ruling a few years back that stated B1 causes the ball to be out of bounds when slapping it out of A1’s hands even if the ball technically is in contact with A1’s hand last before going out of bounds?

Can someone help find that ruling?
I don't remember such a ruling...but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2019, 09:42pm
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Hey, the coaches wanted these rules, so now they got it. Now live with the consequences. You think you have to get every little detail right and if you cannot handle the fact that then change it back. But this is what replay is. You will catch every little detail potentially in these bigger games and force the officials to get it right.

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