Flagrant Foul Example

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... a flagrant foul, but there is no signal for sure a foul officially.

We unofficially use the old heave ho "You are outta here" signal here. A lot of basketball fans watch baseball and know what the signal means.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We unofficially use the old heave ho "You are outta here" signal here. A lot of basketball fans watch baseball and know what the signal means.

I do of a "thumb" when you report this at the table as I did in that example. But I have not seen a situation where my first reaction would eject them with my signal. I might do that in my mind, but doubt it would be that instinctive.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have not seen a situation where my first reaction would eject them with my signal. I might do that in my mind, but doubt it would be that instinctive.

Agree. If I were the calling official I would immediately come up with the intentional hard foul signal (not official IAABO, but we do it locally). Then I would get together with my partner to make sure that we were both on board with the flagrant foul and only signal the "heave ho" when I report to the table.

[constable]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We unofficially use the old heave ho "You are outta here" signal here. A lot of basketball fans watch baseball and know what the signal means.

Even in FIBA where we do have a signal for a disqualifying foul many of use the baseball style heave- ho at the scene of the crime and give the proper DQ signal when reporting.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by constable

... give the proper DQ signal when reporting.

Curious? What is the "proper disqualifying signal"?

[constable]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Curious? What is the "proper disqualifying signal"?

I wish...

https://www.basketball.ca/files/2018...pt2018_low.pdf signal #52

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Curious? What is the "proper disqualifying signal"?

We have a swimming official i work with that used to tell swimmers that a DQ means their parents have to buy them Dairy Queen on the way home from the meet. He used to tell that to his kids when he had to DQ them in age group swimming. Other parents didn't like hearing it so he was asked to stop.

[ballgame99]

Legit question because I've never dealt with this situation; is there any difference between an intentional and a flagrant in NFHS other than the ejection of the offending player? Does the player being fouled have to shoot the shots? Or does the ruling of a flagrant foul change this?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Legit question because I've never dealt with this situation; is there any difference between an intentional and a flagrant in NFHS other than the ejection of the offending player? Does the player being fouled have to shoot the shots? Or does the ruling of a flagrant foul change this?

No change in the administration. Same shooter, same shots, same throwin spot.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Legit question because I've never dealt with this situation; is there any difference between an intentional and a flagrant in NFHS other than the ejection of the offending player? Does the player being fouled have to shoot the shots? Or does the ruling of a flagrant foul change this?

Just to not get them confused, fighting is considered a "Flagrant Act," not a flagrant foul, and so while the ejection is the same, anyone can shoot the free-throws, ball out at division line to the offended team.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Just to not get them confused, fighting is considered a "Flagrant Act," not a flagrant foul, and so while the ejection is the same, anyone can shoot the free-throws, ball out at division line to the offended team.

So the status of the ball, live or dead, makes no difference?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Just to not get them confused, fighting is considered a "Flagrant Act," not a flagrant foul, and so while the ejection is the same, anyone can shoot the free-throws, ball out at division line to the offended team.

What are you talking about? A1 punching B1 during a live ball is a flagrant personal foul and B1 (or his substitute, if B1 is injured) must attempt the FTs.