Another backcourt

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CJP

I have had an official tell me to call 5 fouls as fast as I can on problem players to get them out of the game so the kid does not ruin the game. I disagree with that. I have had an official tell me to rule a block/charge based on the score spread (team is down 30, they will get the call). I disagree with that. I have had officials tell me to hold my whistle on a foul 80 feet from the basket. I kind of agree with this depending on the outcome of the contact.
These officials are "state tournament" level officials. I guess I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.

I will continue to work hard on every play and put myself in the best position possible to make the correct decision. I will continue to give it 100% when I am on the court no matter the level. If I can do these things, no one will care if I pass on the call described in the original post.

You might get away with it, but that does not make it right. Are you also going to pass on a similar save that bounces on the sideline instead? Why or why not?

[CJP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You might get away with it, but that does not make it right. Are you also going to pass on a similar save that bounces on the sideline instead? Why or why not?

I would not pass on an OOB call where the ball hits the line. There is nothing else to take into consideration when the ball strikes the line. A backcourt violation comes with caveats that don't exists with the OOB violation and you know it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CJP

I would not pass on an OOB call where the ball hits the line. There is nothing else to take into consideration when the ball strikes the line. A backcourt violation comes with caveats that don't exists with the OOB violation and you know it.

Still doesn't matter, but OK. Do you ignore it when A1 (in the FC) throws a bounce pass across the court to A2 (also in the FC) such that it bounces on the division line?

In the end, you really have no rational argument for not calling this. If you want to write the rules, get on the rules committee. Otherwise, being a renegade only makes it hard for everyone.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

being a renegade only makes it hard for everyone.

This is the most annoying thing. It ticks me off when I hear a coach say "well the ref we had the last game didn't call that" or "the ref we had last time didn't care that her undershirt wasn't the right color". Just call the game the way the rules are written.

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[Kansas Ref]

Attribution theory: the imparting of characteristics to a person just because they are in a certain position [of authority] despite the fact that said person does not possess those attributes.

I have had so-called "state level officials" tell me in a close game: "let's not foul out A1 because that is the best player on their team"

To which I respond: "if A1 fouls their self out, then that's what they do"

*Maybe this is why I have not been selected to officiate state tournaments?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

Attribution theory: the imparting of characteristics to a person just because they are in a certain position [of authority] despite the fact that said person does not possess those attributes.

I have had so-called "state level officials" tell me in a close game: "let's not foul out A1 because that is the best player on their team"

To which I respond: "if A1 fouls their self out, then that's what they do"

*Maybe this is why I have not been selected to officiate state tournaments?

Sometimes the best response is no response. Veteran "state" officials often have the ears of the powers-that-be. If you don't agree with what they are saying, apply camp etiquette by nodding your head as the words pass through one ear and out the other.

My mouth has been far more harmful to my career than anything I've done on the court.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by raymond

my mouth has been far more harmful to my career than anything i've done on the court.

+1,000