Shooter fouled while shooting over backboard

[Loudwhistle2]

The shooter was fouled before the violation so I think cc55 nailed it. Thanks

[Pantherdreams]

We got into this on the weekend too.

A1 went hard at help defender along the baseline, should have been trapped but the help defender opened up to avoid an impact so A1 gathered and stepped into the space being held by arms between the two defenders. There is loads of contact easy foul call, however A1 postion behind the backboard and shooting motion made no chance that the shot was going to get to the rim without hitting the back of the board let alone having a chance to get to rim and go in.

She clearly went up trying to draw a foul and did. If defense had let her go the shot would have been a violation. So she may be in a shooting motion but reality is there may not actually be a legitimate attempt at goal being made. Contact stopped shot from going up though so we'll never know.

We sent her to line and B coach was unhappy but understood.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

We got into this on the weekend too ...

"... A1 position behind the backboard and shooting motion made no chance that the shot was going to get to the rim without hitting the back of the board ... "

"... there may not actually be a legitimate attempt at goal being made ... "

So if there is no legitimate attempt made, would this not mean it's NOT ever a shooting foul? If team is in the bonus, it's a 1-and-1. But under no circumstances is it a two-shot (shooting) foul?

Kinda like a player getting fouled shooting at the wrong basket?

Just wondering.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Amesman

So if there is no legitimate attempt made ... Kinda like a player getting fouled shooting at the wrong basket?

Disagree. The player is shooting at the correct basket, and if the foul comes before the violation it's still a legitimate shot attempt, a bad legitimate shot attempt, but nevertheless a legitimate shot attempt.

Now sit back and enjoy some classic Larry Bird in Hartford, CT:

https://youtu.be/Ebx61XuFGX8

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Amesman

So if there is no legitimate attempt made, would this not mean it's NOT ever a shooting foul? If team is in the bonus, it's a 1-and-1. But under no circumstances is it a two-shot (shooting) foul?

Kinda like a player getting fouled shooting at the wrong basket?

Just wondering.

A "shot" at the wrong basket is, by definition, not a try. This is one of those situations that I've never seen, but it would be fascinating. A1 gets confused and starts to shoot a layup at B's basket. He is fouled by B1. After the foul the ball goes through the basket. Guess what? Wave it off, and if you're in the bonus go to the other end and shoot 1 and 1. I'm thinking this would be hard for the crowd/opposing coach to swallow.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by just another ref

A "shot" at the wrong basket is, by definition, not a try. This is one of those situations that I've never seen, but it would be fascinating. A1 gets confused and starts to shoot a layup at B's basket. He is fouled by B1. After the foul the ball goes through the basket. Guess what? Wave it off, and if you're in the bonus go to the other end and shoot 1 and 1. I'm thinking this would be hard for the crowd/opposing coach to swallow.

The case book has the play where .3 or less on clock. throw in pass to me, I catch, shoot, fouled. ball goes in. since it can only be a tap my basket does not count and I cannot catch it and try ,,,so rule says I get bonus situation..