Out of bounds “5” count

[deecee]

Officials that coach drive/drove me nuts. We can help communicate with players to talk them out of fouls/violations but I found nothing gets coaches and players moving like a visible count.

All this official is doing is opening themselves up to be reamed at by the opposing coach which could put them in a position for a T. Not good.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

... I found nothing gets coaches and players moving like a visible count.

They're certainly watching.

I hear it all the time from coaches, "He's counting".

Usually with closely guarded counts, but sometimes on throwins.

[ilyazhito]

A rule of thumb for me is when the ball is on the floor within reach of a player. At that point, I start counting. If the ball is lying still on the floor after a goal,and no one moves to pick it up, I also start a count. I also start a count if the team entitled to the ball delays after a timeout.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

If the ball is lying still on the floor after a goal,and no one moves to pick it up, I also start a count. I also start a count if the team entitled to the ball delays after a timeout.

I am sure these, especially the last one, are winning moves for you.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I am sure these, especially the last one, are winning moves for you.

These are all fine, in my opinion.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

These are all fine, in my opinion.

I’d have to see the first two. Ill start a count if there just fiddling around. As to the third point...get the team out of the huddle. Pick your battles...and there will be battles. Don’t fight over a TO. Putting the ball on the floor or counting before they get to spot after a TO guarantees a fight. Just get to the huddle and get them out.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

A rule of thumb for me is when the ball is on the floor within reach of a player. At that point, I start counting. If the ball is lying still on the floor after a goal,and no one moves to pick it up,

I also start a count. I also start a count if the team entitled to the ball delays after a timeout.

Sounds like a plan.

After a timeout, I'll be sure to sound my whistle extremely loud and long, make an exaggerated move to put the ball on the floor, preventing it from rolling away, take an exaggerated step back, and make an exaggerated counting motion, maybe a little slower than my normal count. If I get to five, I'll call the violation, that's the rule. Bottom line, I'm not in a rush to call a violation, but I want everybody to know that I'm not going to wait forever.

I need to clarify something. Is it true that this procedure can be used for any delayed throwin situation, not just one after a timeout, or intermission?

4-38: The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the
ball in play when a throw-in team does not make a thrower available or
following a time-out or intermission (unless either team is not on the court
to start the second half) as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a
violation instead of a technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

Note the word "or".

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Note the word "or".

the "or" is clear and correct.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... the "or" is clear and correct.

Thanks.

Again to clarify, how about in a delayed free throw situation (defenders ready)?

After a time out, or intermission, in a delayed free throw situation (defenders ready), put the ball on the floor and start counting ten?

Any other (not after a time out, or intermission) delayed free throw situation (defenders ready), charge a immediate technical foul?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... to clarify, how about in a delayed free throw situation (defenders ready)?

After a time out, or intermission, in a delayed free throw situation (defenders ready), put the ball on the floor and start counting ten?

Any other (not after a time out, or intermission) delayed free throw situation (defenders ready), charge a immediate technical foul?

I'm 99% sure that I'm correct, but can an esteemed Forum member please confirm?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The Count only calls four second violations. Transylvanian rules.