Vid Request - Auburn vs Ole miss - Reaching out of your area

[bucky]

I was reading the "Reaching out of your area" thread earlier today and then flipping channels later and found the Auburn vs Ole Miss game. I just happen to stumble upon a "Reaching out of your area" play. With about 16:44 left in the game, the T official, with no action in his PCA, calls a shooting foul on a low post defender on the opposite side of the lane. L and C saw the play and were both closer but T called the foul immediately. T had no delay in his whistle. No one seemed to mind that T made the call.

[Nevadaref]

What do you expect someone to do? Should the L run out there and take his whistle away? If a partner makes a call, there is nothing to do about it other than administer and move on. At that level video will be reviewed and the calling official will have to answer to the supervisor.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

What do you expect someone to do? Should the L run out there and take his whistle away? If a partner makes a call, there is nothing to do about it other than administer and move on. At that level video will be reviewed and the calling official will have to answer to the supervisor.

Gee Nevada, where were you in the other thread discussing the same thing?

[JRutledge]

I saw the play in question. The Trail called it late and called contact that was up top. It was in the lane so he would be looking there and I believe he felt that the contact that affected the shot was missed by the other officials. Nothing about that call was something he could not call or like the thread that talked about making the call missed completely in another official's area.

Peace

[griblets]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It was in the lane so he would be looking there and I believe he felt that the contact that affected the shot was missed by the other officials.Peace

T often has the best angle to see between the players on low block shots on C side of court. C and L can be straight lined. I encourage my partners to call that from T in that situation.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by griblets

T often has the best angle to see between the players on low block shots on C side of court. C and L can be straight lined. I encourage my partners to call that from T in that situation.

Especially if T is 'closed down' / at the 28 ft mark or lower. The curl away play (going away from C) from the opposite block is a great 'up top' point of contact call for T. Body contact or anything from the eyes down would likely be a call from R.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I saw the play in question. The Trail called it late and called contact that was up top. It was in the lane so he would be looking there and I believe he felt that the contact that affected the shot was missed by the other officials. Nothing about that call was something he could not call or like the thread that talked about making the call missed completely in another official's area.

Peace

Not necessarily trying to argue but....

1) I did not feel it was called late but rather very quickly.

2) "It was in the lane so he would be looking there..." Why? Lane is not T's PCA, especially far lane.

Nothing wrong with call per say, guess I am just not seeing/understanding difference b/w this play and other thread. Neither of the two closest/responsible officials made the call and the farthest one away, looking outside their PCA, did.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bucky

Not necessarily trying to argue but....

Isn't this what you do in a discussion board? We discuss the issue.

Originally Posted by bucky

1) I did not feel it was called late but rather very quickly.

If you hear the cadence of the whistle, he called it when it was clear no one else had the same thing. And if you look at his angle, he has the best angle. The defender is not vertical and the C and L are likely straight lined on the arm movement of the defender.

Originally Posted by bucky

2) "It was in the lane so he would be looking there..." Why? Lane is not T's PCA, especially far lane.

Where does it say only the L calls everything in the lane? I have never attended any camp or training that makes that suggestion. The lane theoretically can be all officials having eyes and an angle on the play. Isn't BI and GT plays happening in the lane? How does an official from the C or T call those violations if they never look at the lane? You have to know if there is a shot just to make those violation rulings in most cases.

Originally Posted by bucky

Nothing wrong with call per say, guess I am just not seeing/understanding difference b/w this play and other thread. Neither of the two closest/responsible officials made the call and the farthest one away, looking outside their PCA, did.

If you do not see the difference of a shot taken outside the lane, below FT line extended, opposite side of the court from the C and a shot in the lane where multiple players are there rebounding and defending the basket, I am not sure what to tell you.

Peace

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by bucky

Not necessarily trying to argue but....

1) I did not feel it was called late but rather very quickly.

2) "It was in the lane so he would be looking there..." Why? Lane is not T's PCA, especially far lane.

Nothing wrong with call per say, guess I am just not seeing/understanding difference b/w this play and other thread. Neither of the two closest/responsible officials made the call and the farthest one away, looking outside their PCA, did.

I was having a hard time understanding the difference myself. Why is this call ok, but most were against a partner going out of their PCA on the other thread?

Is it because the official is a veteran, is respected, and no one questions him? That seems to be the unwritten rule from what I have read on the other thread. I don't know anything about this official.

I 100% agree that a low post spin away from the C is a really good look for the T. But to get that, the T has to go out of their PCA to get it.