Shot clock violation

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Seriously? I thought that the IAABO states did either 30/15 or 35/15 for their shot clocks (except for private school games, which follow college shot clock rules), but maybe MA is an exception which will cease to become one in the next rules change cycle.

Rule cycle for which organization? Does IAABO have a rule book that addresses the shot clock?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Does IAABO have a rule book that addresses the shot clock?

No it does not. IAABO neither makes rules, nor does it interpret rules, it just educates officials regarding such (IAABO does have its own mechanics manual).

It appears that in IAABO areas that want to use a shot clock, the local board, or state board, has presented its members with guiding principles for shot clocks. I am not aware of any shot clock guidance from IAABO International.

I can speak with authority regarding the evolution of shot clock principles (and other NFHS differences) here in 100% IAABO Connecticut (for our prep school varsity games).

Prep school coaches and athletic doctors tell our IAABO Connecticut State Board what they want regarding NFHS rule differences and the State Board educates officials regarding such.

The prep school coaches and athletic directors tell the officials what to do, not vice versa.

It took us several years to convince prep school coaches and athletic directors that the closely guarded distance for girls (women) had changed from three feet to back six feet.

For almost all prep school coaches and athletic directors, NFHS rule differences are a distant afterthought.

New prep school coaches are often unaware that their teams use special hybrid NFHS/NCAA rules.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It appears that in IAABO areas that want to use a shot clock, the local board, or state board, has presented its members with guiding principles for shot clocks. I am not aware of any shot clock guidance from IAABO International.

IAABO does, indeed, publish national guidance on the shot clock. PDF files with instructions for the shot clock (with and without a reset) are available to board interpreters from IAABO. Only board interpreters have access to that part of the IAABO website that has this information.

While most officials in Massachusetts belong to IAABO. there are several non-IAABO basketball associations that are recognized by the MIAA. Since the MIAA is the rule-making authority, it publishes the rules and guidance. I have seen material from IAABO, NFHS, NCAA and stuff with no attribution -- as well as material written by MIAA staff.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Rule cycle for which organization? Does IAABO have a rule book that addresses the shot clock?

The post above mine was referring to Massachusetts (the MIAA) and their 3-year timeline to change rules.

IAABO International does not have a specific rulebook to address that, but for states that use a shot clock, either their IAABO state Board will have resources with shot clock instructions and situations, or their state association will have the appropriate rules on the website/in the handbook. In my case, I downloaded the MD shot clock rules from the MPSSAA website.

For those IAABO boards outside the US, their members receive manuals with FIBA rules and mechanics, and those manuals include FIBA shot clock rules as part of the rules. If there are any variations to those rules, e.g. for scholastic games, these variations are published on the relevant board's website.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The post above mine was referring to Massachusetts (the MIAA) and their 3-year timeline to change rules.

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Seriously? I thought that the IAABO states did either 30/15 or 35/15 for their shot clocks (except for private school games, which follow college shot clock rules), but maybe MA is an exception which will cease to become one in the next rules change cycle.

As Billy said, IAABO does not make any rules. The Massachusetts rules are set by the state H.S. association, the MIAA, which changes rules every two years following a long process that includes written proposals, comments, votes, etc. We are in the middle of a cycle that will change rules (for all sports) starting next school year (2019-20), but the deadline for proposing changes has passed and the shot clock reset is not being considered. That's why it is at least three years away.

There is one basketball rules change proposed for next year: doing away with the seat belt rule for coaches who receive a direct or indirect technical foul. Interestingly, this change was recommended by officials and has been approved by the MIAA basketball committee. Many other committees get to weigh in before a final vote is taken in the spring.