Small circle within center circle

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?

How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation and talk about the old narrow lane.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation ...

The twenty-eight foot hashmark separated the midcourt from the forecourt. Ball handlers would get a new five second closely guarded dribbling count if they passed the hashmark going forward, thus allowing sixteen seconds of legal closely guarded control, four seconds holding in midcourt, four seconds dribbling in the midcourt, dribble past the hashmark and get a new four seconds dribbling, and then finish off with four seconds of holding.

My arm's getting tired just thinking about it.

The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time.

Been there, done that: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...endations.html, posts #16 and #21.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by LRZ

Been there, done that: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...endations.html, posts #16 and #21.

Originally Posted by LRZ

There was a time when courts had hashmarks along each side line. If a team held the ball beyond them and made no attempt to penetrate, and the defense sat back, we would, at some point, step in and tell the defense to come out and "play.".

Whichever team was behind, offense or defense, was responsible to "Play ball". Tied game, defense was responsible to "Play ball".

If instructed to "Play ball" the offense had to move the ball past the hashmarks. If the defense was responsible they had to initiate a five second closely guarded count.

Not sure, but one "Play ball" warning per team per quarter, technical foul after the warning.

This was the Pleistocene Epoch version of the shot clock.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Whichever team was behind, offense or defense, was responsible to "Play ball". Tied game, defense was responsible to "Play ball".

That does jog my memory and sounds right. I am older than you (and MTD), so my memory lapses must be excused.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

This thread has been a walk down memory lane.

MTD, Sr.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Whichever team was behind, offense or defense, was responsible to "Play ball". Tied game, defense was responsible to "Play ball". If instructed to "Play ball" the offense had to move the ball past the hashmarks.

I distinctly recall this being called as often as possible during those 1-3/4 hour grade school games back in '76 when $5.00 was the generous going rate at the time.
Three of those games on a Friday night when there happened to be other things to do with classmates out on the town back at campus was pure punishment. But formative, in the long run, I guess.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Regarding the Hash Marks 28 feet from each End Line and the Lack of Sufficient Action Rule.

Situation #1:

Team A is behind in the score and has Control of the Ball in its Midcourt Area (between the Hash Marks and the Division Line). Team B is not required to come into the Midcourt Area and play defense. (NOTE: Notice that I did not use the term Closely Guarded because even though the CG Rule was adopted while the LSA Rule was still a Rule, CG is not a requirement for the Defense.)

If Team A Holds (A1 Holds or Dribbles the Ball or Team A Passes the Ball between Players in the MCA) for ten seconds while Team B does not play defense in Team A's MCA The Train (Two-Person or Three-Person Crew) shall Warn Team A by moving off of the Side Line into the Team A's MCA, point toward Team A's Basket and announce to Team A to "play".

As long has Team B does not come out to play defense in the MCA Team A has ten seconds (later the Rule was changed five seconds) to advance the Ball from its MCA to its Front Court Area (between the Hash Marks and the End Line). If Team A does not it shall be charged with a TF charged to Team A.


Situation #2:

The score is tied or Team B is behind in the score and Team A has Control of the Ball in its MCA. Team A is not required to advance the Ball from its MCA into its FCA but if Team B remains in Team A's FCA for ten seconds the Trail shall Warn Team B by moving off of the Side Line into Team A's MCA, point toward Team B's Basket and announce to Team B to "play".

As long has Team A Holds the Ball in its MCA the defense has ten seconds (later five seconds) to move into Team A's MCA and play defense. If Team B does not it shall be charged with a TF.


A Team only receives one LSA Warning per game and it does not matter if the Warning was given while the Team was on Offense or Defense. The Warning applies to all subsequent infractions of the LSA Rule whether the Infraction occurs while the Team is on Offense or Defense.

I gave numerous Warnings in my career but I do not ever having a Team fail to heed the Warning and receive a TF.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

A Team only receives one LSA Warning per game and it does not matter if the Warning was given while the Team was on Offense or Defense. The Warning applies to all subsequent infractions of the LSA Rule whether the Infraction occurs while the Team is on Offense or Defense.

Thanks for the clarification Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I hope that it wasn't too cold in your attic.

Happy Thanksgiving.