Small circle within center circle

[njbell89]

Is anyone familiar with why some basketball courts have a smaller circle (~2ft in diameter) within the center restraining circle? Is there a non-NFHS reason, perhaps?

[LRZ]

My memory may be faulty (and I don't have access to MTD's attic to look through his archives), but I seem to recall, years ago, the jumpers had to have one foot in the smaller circle.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by LRZ

My memory may be faulty (and I don't have access to MTD's attic to look through his archives), but I seem to recall, years ago, the jumpers had to have one foot in the smaller circle.

I think that’s it. If you see this feature, it is a relic of a bygone era.


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[Freddy]

Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?









me

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?

How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation and talk about the old narrow lane.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This is where MTD and BillyMac enter the conversation ...

The twenty-eight foot hashmark separated the midcourt from the forecourt. Ball handlers would get a new five second closely guarded dribbling count if they passed the hashmark going forward, thus allowing sixteen seconds of legal closely guarded control, four seconds holding in midcourt, four seconds dribbling in the midcourt, dribble past the hashmark and get a new four seconds dribbling, and then finish off with four seconds of holding.

My arm's getting tired just thinking about it.

The twenty-eight foot hashmark also had something to do with lack of action, but that's another story for another time.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?



me

Well, 28' marks are relevant in regards to bench area and coaching box.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Well, 28' marks are relevant in regards to bench area and coaching box.

Perhaps, as a possible point of reference for any schools who don't lay down the obligatory line in the OOB area to designate the inward boundary of the coaching box.
And that's for courts 84' or longer. Those shorter can't use that as a point of reference, though I bet there's a lot of misinformed AD's thinking so.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Well, 28' marks are relevant in regards to bench area and coaching box.

Though currently marked off the court, they used to be marked on the court.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

... segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.'s favorite lines on the court.

Three jump ball circles, center, and at each end of the court. And lots of jump balls back then. To start each quarter, and each overtime period. Plus, anytime we go to the alternating possession arrow today, we had a jump ball back then. One could have literally dozens of jump balls in a girls subvarsity game.

Yeah, it was like heaven for Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. back then.

If he had his way the alternating possession arrow would be thrown in the trash and burned to a crisp.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One could have literally dozens of jump balls in a girls subvarsity game.
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In my youth, I reffed middle-school/grammar school games (without training). . . my arm could be tired from all those jump balls in the girls' games . . .

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Other relics of a bygone era?
How 'bout: 28' marks, segmented semi-circle within the lanes completing the antiquated jump circles, other?

How 'bout:
The neutral zone marks, commonly called the blocks, along the sides of the FT lane, which used to separate the first two rebounders on each side prior to the rule change which eliminated the first lane space on each side nearest the endline.

[billyu2]

Player committing a foul required to put hand up. Straight up!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The neutral zone marks, commonly called the blocks ...

Still relevant. That separates the first rebounder from where the lead official stands between two free throws in a lot of high school subvarsity games.

I already know, I'm a baaaaad boy! (with apologies to Lou Costello).

http://www.myvirtualofficialsassociation.com/?p=1104

Note: 2018-2019 IAABO Manual Revisions: Free Throw Coverage - Lead Official: Take a position that allows the official to observe the players in the first lane space on the nearer lane line and in the three spaces on the farther lane line.
(Replaces: Free Throw Coverage - Lead Official: Back out of the free throw lane taking a position approximately four feet from nearer free throw lane line and off the court near the end line.)

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How 'bout:

The neutral zone marks, commonly called the blocks, along the sides of the FT lane, which used to separate the first two rebounders on each side prior to the rule change which eliminated the first lane space on each side nearest the endline.

I have often wondered why the blocks are still in the court diagram, and thus why new paint jobs continue to include them. They are completely meaningless because they no longer separate anything. The lower part of the modern 1st space could just as well be a 2” hash mark like every other space mark.

I guess the reason this hasn’t changed is one of pure nostalgia. There must be something romantic about “the blocks” on a basketball court. But they serve no modern purpose.


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