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Old Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:48pm
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RE 9--players can't roll their waist bands? Is that new? It seems to me with modern shorts most players roll them so they fit better.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:57pm
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RE 9--players can't roll their waist bands? Is that new? It seems to me with modern shorts most players roll them so they fit better.
Rule 3-4-5 forbade rolled down waistbands if they exposed an additional logo.

Some states exercised 3-5-5 to ban the practice: "...apparel shall...be worn in the manner the manufacturer intend to be worn."

This Interpretation, if honored by our state and communicated to all coaches and officials, will make things so much easier for us.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2018, 06:09pm
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SITUATION 1: A1 is dribbling the ball in frontcourt near the division line when B1 taps the ball away. The ball rolls into the backcourt where A2 is standing. A2 picks up the ball while in backcourt and starts a dribble. RULING: Legal play. The ball rolling on the floor when it crosses the division line has backcourt status; therefore, either the offense or the defense can recover the ball. (9-9-1 EXCEPTION)

This has never been a backcourt violation. We didn't need an interp on this play. Write an interp this year for the scenario which the new exception reverses the previous NFHS ruling! Silly monkeys.

SITUATION 2: A1 is straddling the division line when the ball is deflected by B1 into the backcourt. A1 is able to reach out and take possession of the ball while still straddling the division line. RULING: Legal. A1 is in the backcourt and maintains that status when she takes possession of the deflected ball. Because A1 is in the backcourt, the official must start a 10-second count and maintain the count as long as the player is in the backcourt and in possession of the ball. (9-9-1)

Actually, the official should have been counting a 10-second backcourt count the entire play! The ball had backcourt status during this whole sequence. Silly monkeys.

SITUATION 3: A1 throws a ball from the sideline, near the division line.

So, this is from out of bounds during a throw-in? Thanks for being clear.

SITUATION 8: A loose ball is on the floor and A1 dives onto the floor and secures the ball while on her/his stomach. A1 then (a) rolls over, sits up and passes the ball; (b) while on her/his stomach passes the ball to a teammate. RULING: Illegal in (a) to roll over from the stomach; (b) legal action for the ball to be passed from that position. (4-44-5b)

"her/his"...seriously? Is this a new PC thing? Had to be written by a woman.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:36pm
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SITUATION 2: A1 is straddling the division line when the ball is deflected by B1 into the backcourt. A1 is able to reach out and take possession of the ball while still straddling the division line. RULING: Legal. A1 is in the backcourt and maintains that status when she takes possession of the deflected ball. Because A1 is in the backcourt, the official must start a 10-second count and maintain the count as long as the player is in the backcourt and in possession of the ball. (9-9-1)

Actually, the official should have been counting a 10-second backcourt count the entire play! The ball had backcourt status during this whole sequence. Silly monkeys.

I disagree. B1 is presumably in the FC. When B1 deflects the ball, that gives the ball FC status. For that matter, does A1 even have the ball or had A1 passed it?
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:45pm
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I disagree. B1 is presumably in the FC. When B1 deflects the ball, that gives the ball FC status. For that matter, does A1 even have the ball or had A1 passed it?
Thank you for offering your take on this. I didn't picture A1 as not having the ball when I read the interp. I like your way of visualizing the scenario.
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So, this is from out of bounds during a throw-in? Thanks for being clear ... "Dr. Karissa L. Niehoff, Publisher, NFHS Publications © 2018"
Agree. It took me a few seconds to figure if this was a throwin, or not. Why not just say "from a throwin"? Some of the other questions could have been written in a clearer manner. I guess Dr. Niehoff went to a medical school that didn't teach how to describe situations in a clear manner. She should stick to her day job of administering flu shots and listen to the fans in the bleachers yelling "Don't quit your day job".
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"her/his"...seriously? Is this a new PC thing? Had to written by a woman.
Yep.
"Dr. Karissa L. Niehoff, Publisher, NFHS Publications © 2018"
So what are you complaining about, the use of "his/her", the use of "her", or that it was written by a woman? Jeez, some folks find any little thing to complain about.
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:57am
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"her/his"...seriously?
The NFHS starting using his/her many years ago, after Title IX fully kicked in. I've never liked it. It breaks the flow of the sentence. Each interpretation is about a specific situation. Why not make some for male players, and others for female players? Half of the interpretations, rules, test questions, etc., should have he or his, and the other half should have she or her.

Are officials so stupid that a NFHS statement about boys would lead us to believe that it wouldn't be the same for girls, and vice versa (exception for ball size)?
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:25am
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English does not have a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun. That causes the problem.

It's why so many now use "they" (or "their") -- and I find that more problematic than his / her or s/he
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:50am
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English does not have a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun. That causes the problem.

It's why so many now use "they" (or "their") -- and I find that more problematic than his / her or s/he
When I (and most of us, I assume) was in grade school, I was always taught to default to "he/him/his" when gender was indefinite.

How times have changed.
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Old Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:20pm
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English does not have a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun. That causes the problem.

It's why so many now use "they" (or "their") -- and I find that more problematic than his / her or s/he
Bob is on point here. Ask any teachers, at least newer teachers, about this. There is research/science behind not using her/his as it can actually be detrimental. Now, many teachers do not use the words "boys" and "girls", rather they refer to everyone has students or other gender-neutral term.

"English does not have a gender-neutral third person singular pronoun." - this is open to debate, crazy debates too.

I think it should have simply said "...A1's stomach."
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:41pm
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Are these interps going to get added to the master thread of interps?
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:09am
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... statement about boys would lead us to believe that it wouldn't be the same for girls, and vice versa (exception for ball size)?
C'mon Mark Padgett. This was a softball. I teed it up for you. I thought, for sure, that you would hit this out of the park. Are you losing your touch?
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:42pm
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So what are you complaining about, the use of "his/her", the use of "her", or that it was written by a woman? Jeez, some folks find any little thing to complain about.
My complaint is not with writing his/her, but rather the deliberate reversing of it to "her/his" by this author in order to specifically put the female pronoun first. That seems to be an attempt to push a feminist agenda through the language used in the NFHS play rulings, which strikes me as petty and inappropriate.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:43am
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My complaint is not with writing his/her, but rather the deliberate reversing of it to "her/his" by this author in order to specifically put the female pronoun first. That seems to be an attempt to push a feminist agenda through the language used in the NFHS play rulings, which strikes me as petty and inappropriate.
This is the time I would like to insert the meme from "Swaggy P" with the "What???" look in order to show my reaction to this post.

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