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Old Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:54am
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In much of the world, nobody cares how the FR/JV officials show up. They arrive, work, and leave.

That might be true and it still does not change an often bad stereotype. We have locker rooms, so you need to act like you have changed your clothes, even if you hide it well.

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Old Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:37pm
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That might be true and it still does not change an often bad stereotype. We have locker rooms, so you need to act like you have changed your clothes, even if you hide it well.

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Well down here, a lot of sub-varsity officials can't get to schools any earlier than 15 minutes before tip because of work, etc. So showing up in uniform is inevitable and acceptable and quite frankly, the schools couldn't care less and I bet barely even bat an eye.

And in the event I work non-interscholastic ball, I show up in uniform and the only thing I put on at the gym is shoes. None of the powers-that-be at church/wreck leagues or AAU-type tournaments could care less.
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Old Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:17pm
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Well down here, a lot of sub-varsity officials can't get to schools any earlier than 15 minutes before tip because of work, etc. So showing up in uniform is inevitable and acceptable and quite frankly, the schools couldn't care less and I bet barely even bat an eye.

And in the event I work non-interscholastic ball, I show up in uniform and the only thing I put on at the gym is shoes. None of the powers-that-be at church/wreck leagues or AAU-type tournaments could care less.
Well if it is an HS game, coming dressed can and will get you fired. And I am talking about the heavy traffic area that 15 miles can take over an hour to get to.

Officiating is local, like politics.

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:27am
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Well if it is an HS game, coming dressed can and will get you fired. And I am talking about the heavy traffic area that 15 miles can take over an hour to get to.

Officiating is local, like politics.
Which is why my post specifically addressed subvarsity games and also included the qualifier "down here."
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:15am
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Which is why my post specifically addressed subvarsity games and also included the qualifier "down here."
And the standards can be different. I just know what happens here when you show up dressed to work games. And it is often stated in the emails by the assignors as their "terms."

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Old Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:17pm
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And the standards can be different.
Great post, they can be, and often are. And it's the single most important fact that I have learned since I joined the Forum.

Previous to joining the Forum, I was officiating in a vacuum, in a bubble, stuck here in my little corner of Connecticut. Participating in the Forum has opened up my eyes to a whole new world of officiating out there. And I've discovered that different doesn't necessarily mean better, or worse, most times different is just different, no more, no less.

I'll defend what we do, warts (black belts) and all, but I'm also open to the idea that something done in a different manner may also be great for those who officiate someplace else.

Variety's the very spice of life, that gives it all it's flavor. (William Cowper)

Also, "When in Rome, yada yada ...".
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Old Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:13pm
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Great post, they can be, and often are. And it's the single most important fact that I have learned since I joined the Forum.

Previous to joining the Forum, I was officiating in a vacuum, in a bubble, stuck here in my little corner of Connecticut. Participating in the Forum has opened up my eyes to a whole new world of officiating out there. And I've discovered that different doesn't necessarily mean better, or worse, most times different is just different, no more, no less.

I'll defend what we do, warts (black belts) and all, but I'm also open to the idea that something done in a different manner may also be great for those who officiate someplace else.

Variety's the very spice of life, that gives it all it's flavor. (William Cowper)

Also, "When in Rome, yada yada ...".
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Old Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:48pm
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That might be true and it still does not change an often bad stereotype. We have locker rooms, so you need to act like you have changed your clothes, even if you hide it well.

Peace
Why do you need to act as if you have changed, if you don't have access to a locker room? If I do get a locker room, I change there, even if I just remove my regular sweater/dress shirt and put on my uniform shirt. When I don't, I might dress in a bathroom stall or come already in uniform.

Re: "hide it well". How does an official do that?

At least in my neck of the woods, it is acceptable to show up to a varsity game dressed if you have finished working the JV game, or another game elsewhere (Sometimes, an official may be assigned to both a JV and varsity game on the same day. This usually happens for DC public school games.). Is this the same everywhere?
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Old Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:11pm
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... sub-varsity officials can't get to schools any earlier than 15 minutes before tip because of work, etc. So showing up in uniform is inevitable and acceptable ...
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... it is acceptable to show up to a varsity game dressed if you have finished working the JV game, or another game elsewhere (Sometimes, an official may be assigned to both a JV and varsity game on the same day) ...
Even with our strict local dress code, both of these situations (above) would be totally acceptable.

And to think, thirty-seven years ago we were expected to show up in a dress shirt, and tie (a dress shirt, tie, and a sports jacket, for a private prep school game).
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