Indisputable nonsense

[TopicalTropical]

Watching the Gonzaga game and the Marshall one earlier when the game dragged on forever just makes me sick of the replay system. That indisputable stuff is just BS. It is a coward's way out. For the tournament games there should be a control room making the review calls not the refs on the floor. I just feel they have too much going on with calling the game and they should not be doing the replays. I really hope the NCAA changes things up for next year

[TopicalTropical]

March Madness 2018: Auburn put wrong player on free-throw line to seal win vs. Charleston | NCAA Basketball | Sporting News


This too, let's put a small team of people watching the games that can go over the replays and during the last five minutes catch things like this. They can inform the table before the fts, or waive them off and get the right shooter. We've all seen this in games and seen refs mix up who the shooter is. Sometimes the players are mixed up as well, but even if they are not it's worth it for them to try it which they likely did in the Auburn game. That doesn't mean they are bad refs but that there could be some sort of backup plan to avoid these screwups.

[crosscountry55]

Fanboy nonsense. You don’t want some replays, yet you endorse others.

Didn’t a similar post like this get yanked the other day?

Let’s keep this measured and substantive. Leave the grievance component of your posts to some other forum. Perhaps make more of a summary criticism once the tournament is over and we can discuss reasonably achievable replay change ideas at that time.


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[TopicalTropical]

I am not a Gonzaga fan at all Dude.
The replay system is a joke. Why don't you address my points instead of doing what is all so common on this board and attack.
The replay system often takes way too long. The refs are looking like camera hogs out there and the game is being trashed making it a huge chore too watch when you combine it with the fouls at end of game situations. Did you watch the end of the Marshall game? It was horrible to watch.
The refs on the floor should not be doing the replays for the tournament. What if Ohio St had come back and won the game. What if say that Charleston player had made the 3 and then there was a foul one and one and Auburn sneaked the player on. It would have been way more controversial.

Now, why don't you pick a side. I am against the current replay system and there should be changes. Are you in favor of it?

[TopicalTropical]

At the end of the game, the refs are probably somewhat mentally tired as well. End game, big calls with thousands of fans yelling and TV cameras. Overall they do a great job of getting most calls right. But when it comes to those out of bounds plays, they too often fall for the indisputable BS. Take it away from the refs. They should not be in that position to watch the replay as they have so much more to deal with. Give it to an outside team.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

I am not a Gonzaga fan at all Dude.

Never said you were.

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

Why don't you address my points instead of doing what is all so common on this board and attack.

Says the person who has been a member since January 26th with all of 24 posts to his name. Your false generalization of “all so common” made me laugh. As if you’re speaking from some kind of authoritative wisdom about the culture of this forum. Gimme a break.

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

Now, why don't you pick a side. I am against the current replay system and there should be changes. Are you in favor of it?

There are pros and cons. Mostly pros. Yes, the Marshall ending was complicated, but those were game defining decisions. I’m glad they took the hard looks, even if unpopular.



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[TopicalTropical]

you said fanboy nonsense right after my post instead of addressing my point

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

you said fanboy nonsense right after my post instead of addressing my point

You misconstrue the definition of “fanboy.” This is a clear indication of an inexperienced forum member.


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[Altor]

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

Why don't you address my points instead of doing what is all so common on this board and attack.

Because nobody here can do anything about your complaints. The purpose of this site is to help officials improve themselves. There isn't a thing about your post that helps any reader improve their ability to officiate.

Shut it down.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by TopicalTropical

I am not a Gonzaga fan at all Dude.
The replay system is a joke. Why don't you address my points instead of doing what is all so common on this board and attack.
The replay system often takes way too long. The refs are looking like camera hogs out there and the game is being trashed making it a huge chore too watch when you combine it with the fouls at end of game situations. Did you watch the end of the Marshall game? It was horrible to watch.
The refs on the floor should not be doing the replays for the tournament. What if Ohio St had come back and won the game. What if say that Charleston player had made the 3 and then there was a foul one and one and Auburn sneaked the player on. It would have been way more controversial.

Now, why don't you pick a side. I am against the current replay system and there should be changes. Are you in favor of it?

So another one of these threads were somebody's complaining about the rules and think somebody in here is going to change it?

All these threads are for is so somebody can agree with you.

What advice do you have for officials to make them better with the rules that are currently in place?

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

So another one of these threads were somebody's complaining about the rules and think somebody in here is going to change it?

It is possible, maybe not probable, but possible. I've submitted rule changes, in my case, NFHS rule changes (not NCAA), up through our IAABO chain of command (I believe that this also involves our state high school interscholastic sports governing body) all the way up to the NFHS rules committee and have been successful in getting a few of my NFHS rule changes implemented.

It was while posting here on the Forum that I noted the removal of the phrase "outside the cylinder" in the definition of goaltending (only four parameters instead of five). This made it impossible, in some cases, to differentiate goaltending from basket interference (we often ridicule nonofficials that don't know the difference). I sent the rule change (back to the original definition) up the chain of command and now the definition of goaltending has gone back to five parameters.

I've also submitted successful rule change suggestions regarding the "captain's defensive match-up" when multiple substitutes come into the game, and most recently, the clarification regarding the legal colors for compression shorts (the old rule was confusing, same color as uniform shorts, or same color as "uniform" (as the rule read at the time), which could have meant jersey, or shorts?). I suggested removing the term compression shorts (they're just short tights) from the rules since tights were now legal and already had well defined color restrictions.

It's not easy to submit such changes, there's a lot of paperwork involved. One has to submit the old rule, the new rule, a rationale for the change, and also submit any changes necessary in any, and all, related rules, penalties, and casebook plays.

I hold no particular title within my local IAABO board, I'm just a lowly "journeyman" official, but I was able to get three changes into the NFHS rulebook.

So go ahead and "think somebody in here is going to change" a NFHS rule. It is possible, I can verify that.

That being said, I know more about rocket science, or brain surgery, than I know about changing NCAA rules. Maybe changing NCAA rules is harder than playing darts with spaghetti? Maybe harder than a steel reinforced concrete wrapped diamond?