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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:01pm
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Defensive foul. Screener didn't turn his shoulder into the defender or initiate contact in any way, simply turned to brace for the train heading his way.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 12:37am
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What about a player attempting to block a shot such that the shooter has to adjust to get around it. If not for that, the defender may have very well hit the shooter's arm. Are we calling something on that because the shooter had to adjust and, in the process of doing so, avoiding creating a foul on the defender and missed the shot?
That is a move by the defense, not the offense. I am discussing an illegal screen by the offense.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 03:12am
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That is a move by the defense, not the offense. I am discussing an illegal screen by the offense.
The point remains. If we're going to call what-ifs, where does it stop?
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 06:39am
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I think we watched 2 different videos. The contact was happening no matter what. The offensive player didn't turn into the defender. That defender was making a beeline to the screen, and had no idea the screen was even there.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 09:57am
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I think we watched 2 different videos. The contact was happening no matter what. The offensive player didn't turn into the defender. That defender was making a beeline to the screen, and had no idea the screen was even there.
Exactly. The screener knew he was going to get trucked and get the defender's head right in his chin, so he turned his head and shoulders to brace himself. This is not an illegal screen.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 10:25am
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Whatcha got on this? And why??

https://youtu.be/eDBuxgrZ52k

Nothing, becuase it's legal.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 02:42pm
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The point remains. If we're going to call what-ifs, where does it stop?
Not sure what you mean. It stops when a player does something illegal that negatively impacts another player. Your previous play described something that was legal.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 04:06pm
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Just make a call. Do it for the kids. They are all going to get horrible hurt if we don't.
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Old Wed Mar 07, 2018, 05:55pm
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Not sure what you mean. It stops when a player does something illegal that negatively impacts another player. Your previous play described something that was legal.
And a screen that moves or has a stance too wide but doesn't cause contact is also legal.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 01:01pm
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And a screen that moves or has a stance too wide but doesn't cause contact is also legal.
Um, no kidding, that is what could use a change. Originally indicated in my post some time ago.
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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 01:02pm
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Just make a call. Do it for the kids. They are all going to get horrible hurt if we don't.





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Old Thu Mar 08, 2018, 05:06pm
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Um, no kidding, that is what could use a change. Originally indicated in my post some time ago.
I know. I'm just wondering how far you want to take the idea. Hence, my question about a defender who disrupts the shooters shot without making contact such that it would be a defensive foul if there were contact.

Your idea, at least if I'm understanding it, is to make something illegal that, without contact, influences the ability of an opponent to make a desired play but elected to deviate from a desired path while, if the opponent hadn't avoided contact, there would be a foul.
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