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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:16am
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Let me understand your "logic". A1 sets a legal Screen, but you are going call a Blocking Foul on A1 because you do not want to deal with the "nightmare" of selling a Charging Foul against B1 to B-HC?

You do not want to know what I think of that kind of "illogical" thinking. By my standards, I am speechless right now.

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Look I like this site and most guys here seem nice. I have no problem having a discussion but not going to be treated like I am beneath someone. I clearly stated after that saying I feel it was an illegal screen and have NO PROBLEM explaining that to a coach but it would be a hard sell since the kid moved.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:32am
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Look I like this site and most guys here seem nice. I have no problem having a discussion but not going to be treated like I am beneath someone. I clearly stated after that saying I feel it was an illegal screen and have NO PROBLEM explaining that to a coach but it would be a hard sell since the kid moved.
You never explained why it is an illegal screen.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:34am
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You never explained why it is an illegal screen.
In my mind the kid moved toward the defender. I have no problem with him going back a little for impact but he goes up. Just my opinion
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:37am
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Push through the screen.

What was the call in the OP?
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 08:38am
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In my mind the kid moved toward the defender. I have no problem with him going back a little for impact but he goes up. Just my opinion
I don't think it's that hard of a sell. The screener turned his shoulder into the defender.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 09:08am
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Look I like this site and most guys here seem nice. I have no problem having a discussion but not going to be treated like I am beneath someone. I clearly stated after that saying I feel it was an illegal screen and have NO PROBLEM explaining that to a coach but it would be a hard sell since the kid moved.

I did not intend to speak down to you but the veterans in the Forum will tell you that I am the 'bulldog' in the Forum with to respect to the Guarding and Screening Rules. In other words I take it very seriously and will take to task any one who plays fast and loose withe two Rules. And the faster and looser one plays with either of the two Rules the more irritated this 'bald old geezer' gets.

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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 09:14am
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I did not intend to speak down to you but the veterans in the Forum will tell you that I am the 'bulldog' in the Forum with to respect to the Guarding and Screening Rules. In other words I take it very seriously and will take to task any one who plays fast and loose withe two Rules. And the faster and looser one plays with either of the two Rules the more irritated this 'bald old geezer' gets.

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No worries and not mad. I am here to share but also to learn from the older guys who have more knowledge then me.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 09:15am
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Push on the defense.

Also Randa - if every other veteran, after seeing a video, have the same call and you are the only one that see's things different it would be safe to say that your call and/or logic is wrong. I would say this applies to anything in life.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 09:39am
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I have let plenty of hard screens go when set legally, but I don't think this is legal. The screener can brace or move back to absorb contact, but they can not turn their shoulder into the defender's chest/neck area.

I will say its close and I think reasonable officials could come away with 3 different calls here (illegal screen, no call, or push by defense) based on how they interpret the screening rules.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 09:46am
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I have let plenty of hard screens go when set legally, but I don't think this is legal. The screener can brace or move back to absorb contact, but they can not turn their shoulder into the defender's chest/neck area.

I will say its close and I think reasonable officials could come away with 3 different calls here (illegal screen, no call, or push by defense) based on how they interpret the screening rules.
And in this case the screener moved towards the defender, he didn't lean away.
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 10:05am
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By rule, the screener may turn or brace for contact, but I'm not sure the screener braces here (even after watching slo mo). IMHO, the screener delivered a blow by turning his shoulder into the defender. So, Illegal screen
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Old Tue Mar 06, 2018, 01:43pm
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Hard to tell from this angle, but it also looks like the screener's legs might be set pretty wide as well. Food for thought.
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