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Old Thu Mar 01, 2018, 05:57pm
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Guys let’s not jump to conclusions. The article shows ONE video (which is clearly an IC), but references three other dunks that were also penalized. For all we know the other three technicals were easy calls. This article could easily have cherry picked this dunk as an example of what’s being called, and until we see the other dunks we won’t know.
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2018, 06:23pm
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Guys let’s not jump to conclusions. The article shows ONE video (which is clearly an IC), but references three other dunks that were also penalized. For all we know the other three technicals were easy calls. This article could easily have cherry picked this dunk as an example of what’s being called, and until we see the other dunks we won’t know.
If the call was for this dunk, then it does not fit any standard other than maybe the state organization/association that plays a role in this interpretation. I have seen a lot worse that is never called because we are not trying to nitpick any grab of the rim. So you could be totally right, that this was not the worse one, but if that is the way it is being expected to be called, I guess I have to wonder if the people in charge ever saw a basketball game before?

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Old Thu Mar 01, 2018, 06:33pm
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Maine Basketball Officials.

Are there any Maine officials on the Forum. I thought that Peter Webb had retired after the 2016-17 season as head of officials for the Maine Principals Association. Please PM with any information.

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Are there any Maine officials on the Forum.
Bainsey is from Maine.

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Old Thu Mar 01, 2018, 09:48pm
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Nevada - you said that the rule prohibits grasping while dunking?? The rule says you can't grasp the basket...except to prevent injury, DUNK or STUFF, or attempt...

That rules says that you can indeed grasp the basket while dunking, so what am I missing?
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2018, 10:21pm
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Nevada - you said that the rule prohibits grasping while dunking?? The rule says you can't grasp the basket...except to prevent injury, DUNK or STUFF, or attempt...

That rules says that you can indeed grasp the basket while dunking, so what am I missing?
A short course in English grammar.

The actual text of rule 10-4-3 is: "A player shall not: ...Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury; dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball."

The phrase starting with "except to..." ends at the semicolon. Nothing after the semicolon is part of the exception. A separate thought begins with "dunk or stuff, ..."

Here is how a semicolon is used in writing.
  1. Semicolons | Punctuation Rules - GrammarBook.com

    www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/semicolons.asp

    Use a semicolon in place of a period to separate two sentences where the conjunction has been left out.

You are misreading the text. You are including "dunk or stuff" as part of the exception to the prohibition on grasping the basket (which includes the ring). That is not correct. Preventing injury is the only exception. You should be reading the rule as two separate prohibitions on players as follows.

1. A player shall not grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury.

2. A player shall not dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball.

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Old Fri Mar 02, 2018, 12:05am
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A short course in English grammar.

The actual text of rule 10-4-3 is: "A player shall not: ...Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury; dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball."

The phrase starting with "except to..." ends at the semicolon. Nothing after the semicolon is part of the exception. A separate thought begins with "dunk or stuff, ..."

Here is how a semicolon is used in writing.
  1. Semicolons | Punctuation Rules - GrammarBook.com

    www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/semicolons.asp

    Use a semicolon in place of a period to separate two sentences where the conjunction has been left out.

You are misreading the text. You are including "dunk or stuff" as part of the exception to the prohibition on grasping the basket (which includes the ring). That is not correct. Preventing injury is the only exception. You should be reading the rule as two separate prohibitions on players as follows.

1. A player shall not grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury.

2. A player shall not dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball.

Save

NevadaRef:

Thank you. I could not have said it better or as concisely as you did.

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Old Fri Mar 02, 2018, 06:49am
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... not even I think that dunk in the video comes remotely close to something that should be called.
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If the call was for this dunk, then it does not fit any standard ...
Agree and agree. The video shows a garden variety dunk, and just a dunk, nothing more to see here folks, move along.
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