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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:57am
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Where Belts Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Belts ...

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I still work with the occasional veteran who wears a belt ...
We've got a few (not a lot, but more than most would think) veterans (including me) here in my little corner of Connecticut that wear a belt. I tried beltless pants several years ago. Back then (before I discovered treadmills with televisions at the gym) my weight would fluctuate up and down during the season (number of consecutive games, and doubleheaders, some trips to fast food places for late night convenience (that I have now completely avoided for a few years), colds and other illnesses) and I would occasionally discover that my beltless pants felt like they would fall down in a game. So I went back to belted pants, and stuck with them.

I know that I'm a dinosaur. I spotted a rookie official with belted pants last week and suggested to him that beltless pants had a more professional look.



Since the fall, I've dropped over twenty pounds, and two belt holes. It's cheaper to drop a belt hole, or two, or three, than to buy new beltless pants every time I drop several pounds.

Note to IAABO members. Do you all realize that IAABO International outlawed belted pants a few years ago. The only reason that we're allowed to wear belted pants here in my little corner of Connecticut is that we passed a local board constitutional amendment allowing black belts for those that prefer to wear them.

The constitutional amendment passed unanimously.

We're outlaws I tell you, outlaws.

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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:32pm
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Rookies, Can't Live With Them, Can't Live Without Them ...

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I still work with the occasional veteran who ... mirrors the attempt signal.
We have rookies, and other inexperienced officials, doing this, not veterans. These young'uns seem to confuse the three point attempt signal with the successful three point goal signal. Sometimes they just want to incorrectly mirror everything.

Two person game. The three point attempt signal (three fingers) is only used in one's primary coverage area. Period.

If the successful three point goal comes from the trail's primary, only the trail gives the successful three point goal (touchdown) signal. Period.

If the successful three point goal comes from the lead's primary, both the lead, and the trail, give the successful three point goal signal.

It seems difficult for rookies, and other inexperienced officials, to understand this signal progression.

Here in Connecticut we have an additional "Connecticut only" signal. In our primary coverage area, we point to floor for a two point field goal attempt when the shooter has a foot touching the three point line.

We also used to have a not closely guarded "Connecticut only" signal (arms spread wide apart), but IAABO International made us give it up, saying the correct signal was just not counting.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:15pm
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We have rookies, and other inexperienced officials, doing this, not veterans. These young'uns seem to confuse the three point attempt signal with the successful three point goal signal. Sometimes they just want to incorrectly mirror everything.

Two person game. The three point attempt signal (three fingers) is only used in one's primary coverage area. Period.

If the successful three point goal comes from the trail's primary, only the trail gives the successful three point goal (touchdown) signal. Period.

If the successful three point goal comes from the lead's primary, both the lead, and the trail, give the successful three point goal signal.

It seems difficult for rookies, and other inexperienced officials, to understand this signal progression.

Here in Connecticut we have an additional "Connecticut only" signal. In our primary coverage area, we point to floor for a two point field goal attempt when the shooter has a foot touching the three point line.

We also used to have a not closely guarded "Connecticut only" signal (arms spread wide apart), but IAABO International made us give it up, saying the correct signal was just not counting.
I thought that in 2 man mechanics the lead never signaled a successful 3-point shot (just marked), but I browsed through the manual and couldn't find a definitive answer.

In the book on pg. 200 the not closely guarded signal is shown (IAABO).
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:42pm
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Here in Connecticut we have an additional "Connecticut only" signal. In our primary coverage area, we point to floor for a two point field goal attempt when the shooter has a foot touching the three point line.

We also used to have a not closely guarded "Connecticut only" signal (arms spread wide apart), but IAABO International made us give it up, saying the correct signal was just not counting.
I do #1 even though it’s technically not “approved” because it saves me from having to deal with the “was that a 3?” dumb question from the table. If we’re not signaling touchdown then obviously it’s not a 3, but most tables in my experience can’t grasp that concept.

I never use the “not closely guarded” signal. If I’m not counting, then obviously they are not closely guarded in my judgment. Difference from the other signal is that the table is not involved.
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Old Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:12pm
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Question on style/mechanics-- you become lead as A1 dribbling up floor fast Do you:
1) try sprint up along side him/her, looking directly sideways to monitor ball/player. Problem is to do this you are basically sprinting and have slightly less control of your body

2) let him/her run out in front, and travel up court a bit slower, more in control looking slightly forward as player/ball move up court faster than you then slide around onto baseline as you arrive

I find myself doing both, sometimes depending on my mood/how tired I am/hot moms in stands/conditions/level of players, etc. I am just wondering how others do it--
Here’s my question....why are you monitoring the player? In this transition I’d go back to what is your primary area? And what should you be watching in your primary? If there are players out front you need to be watching off ball. My opinion it’s better to get to the end line and watch the players come to you.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:02am
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...sometimes depending on my mood/how tired I am...
If this had an "Unlike" button, I would click on it.
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Old Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:09pm
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I do not have a "style." I do what the play requires. Walking the ball up requires a different reaction and movement than if they are running immediately off of the throw-in.

I try to stay close.

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