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[RefRich]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Just a few thoughts...

23. Charging a direct technical foul to the head coach if players enter the game with illegal equipment (sleeves, tights, headbands, wristbands, undershirts, wearing uniform incorrectly, etc.).
Nope. Especially the part about wearing the uniform incorrectly, you're going to give the HC a Tech for a player not tucking in their jersey? I hope not


The rest I have no clear opinion one way or another-

I agree with the technical but eliminate the "wearing uniform incorrectly." This would help to eliminate inconsistencies in application and also put the onus directly on the shoulders of where it belongs, the coaches.

In PA, the PIAA requires us to ask coaches if their teams are equiped properly according to the NFHS. If they answer yes and they aren't, they should get penalized.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by RefRich

I agree with the technical but eliminate the "wearing uniform incorrectly." This would help to eliminate inconsistencies in application and also put the onus directly on the shoulders of where it belongs, the coaches.

In PA, the PIAA requires us to ask coaches if their teams are equiped properly according to the NFHS. If they answer yes and they aren't, they should get penalized.

Fair enough, and I agree, we'd all stop having to deal with uniform issues in a hurry!

[BryanV21]

I've started the survey and find that I don't care about most of the changes made for last season. Rule changes such as the coaches box being extended and uniform name restrictions were never an issue in the first place (at least around here in central Ohio).

As for proposed rule changes, for the most part they seem unnecessary (the one about changing away teams to white and home teams to a dark color made me say "what" out loud). However, some are ok...

I voted for removing color restrictions on sleeves and such, as I'd love not to be part of the fashion police. Although I did voted "no" on the knotted headbands, as I feel that would introduce follow-up rules about the length of the tied ends and size of the knots.

The one about coaches being able to shorten time outs to 30 seconds was intriguing, but in the end it seems unnecessary.

I do like clarifying that a screen must be in bounds for the screen to be legal.

I also like team members needing to remove warm-up clothing three minutes before game time so we can make sure they're uniform is legal.. Not that I've had this issue, but it would avoid a possible argument with a coach about a starter needing to be replaced so they can change their undershirt or something.

And if overtime is an extension of the 4th quarter, why not use the AP arrow instead of having another jump ball?

It seems that most of these rules changes are introduced just to give somebody at the Fed something to do. You know... to justify them having a job.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I've started the survey and find that I don't care about most of the changes made for last season. Rule changes such as the coaches box being extended ...

I love the extended coaching box. If coaches aren't standing in front of the table blocking the view of the scorekeeper as I report fouls, I can just ignore where they're standing. I've gone all season without ever saying, "Hey coach, can you please stay in the box". Not even once. One less irritant between me and the coaches.

I haven't used the written unsporting warning (I've gone directly to a technical foul) but it's a nice tool to have in my referee tool belt in case I need it, and I know that others in my little corner of Connecticut have used the written warning successfully.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I love the extended coaching box. If coaches aren't standing in front of the table blocking the view of the scorekeeper as I report fouls, I can just ignore where they're standing. I've gone all season without ever saying, "Hey coach, can you please stay in the box". Not even once. One less irritant between me and the coaches.

I haven't used the written unsporting warning (I've gone directly to a technical foul) but it's a nice tool to have in my referee tool belt in case I need it, and I know that others in my little corner of Connecticut have used the written warning successfully.

The coach's box has never been a problem for me. So the size of it has not made any difference.

And I've gone straight to a tech a couple of times, and both times I don't recall a time during the game where a warning was applicable. The coaches in both instances went from 0-60. However, I admit that the warning can be helpful and hopefully I take advantage of that tool.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I love the extended coaching box. If coaches aren't standing in front of the table blocking the view of the scorekeeper as I report fouls, I can just ignore where they're standing. I've gone all season without ever saying, "Hey coach, can you please stay in the box". Not even once. One less irritant between me and the coaches.

To me, this seems to imply that you have coaches coming out of the box past the 28 foot line, which is not the direction the box was extended? If I'm reading that right, then you are still having the same issue as before. I have no issue with the extension of the coaches box, but if coaches were out of their box in the past, it was almost always on the half-court side, not the baseline side, so that rule change didn't make a big difference in games that I saw.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RefRich

I agree with the technical but eliminate the "wearing uniform incorrectly." This would help to eliminate inconsistencies in application and also put the onus directly on the shoulders of where it belongs, the coaches.

In PA, the PIAA requires us to ask coaches if their teams are equiped properly according to the NFHS. If they answer yes and they aren't, they should get penalized.

What if they answer "no"? What if the coach doesn't know? What if the question is not asked?

[RefRich]

Originally Posted by Raymond

What if they answer "no"? What if the coach doesn't know? What if the question is not asked?

If the coach answers no then you say, they better be before the start of the game or we’ll have a technical to start the game. If the coach doesn’t know it’s his fault.


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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RefRich

If the coach answers no then you say, they better be before the start of the game or we’ll have a technical to start the game. If the coach doesn’t know it’s his fault.


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So the question has absolutely nothing to do with enforcement. The players are either legally equipped or not, and how or if the coach answers the question has no bearing on the punishment.


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