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Old Sat Jan 27, 2018, 10:57pm
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Wichita Ref gets shoved by cop

Wichita police captain charged with battery in game incident | The Wichita Eagle
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 08:53am
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Terrible!
I commend the young lady for her conviction and guts, but following that guy to tell him to leave is definitely breaking into jail.
Looks like a rec-mess!
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 12:26pm
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Curious to see how this plays out. Being off-duty is no excuse. Especially given the victim is a minor.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 01:20pm
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Here is my thing with it. Should a parent come on the court? no but if the kid is hurt I have no problem with it. I have had it happen before and I walked away and allowed the parent and coach tend to the player with no T. She had no reason to be there and blowing the whistle in his face was ridiculous and should have never happened. While I don't think he should have pushed her I don't understand why she then decided to keep going at him after that. It was a bad situation that could have been avoided if she would have just done her job right
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:06pm
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It was a bad situation that could have been avoided if she would have just done her job right(.)
I get what you're saying, but given she is a minor, I wonder how much training she received, especially in terms of injured players and ejection protocols. Sure, experienced officials know to move away from the scene of an injury when a coach or trainer comes onto the court, and they know that one doesn't have to be right in front of an individual being ejected. However, I wonder how much instruction she received regarding these items.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:17pm
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I wonder how much instruction she received regarding these items.
Back when my daughter played high school basketball, the players were recruited to be recreation league referees on weekends. Nice way to earn few bucks on the weekend. She received absolutely no training. The league just figured that high school varsity basketball players knew all the rules and mechanics because of the many years that they played.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:34pm
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I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 03:28pm
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I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case
Credit the cell phone video which memorialized this inconsequential kerfuffle.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 03:35pm
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I gotta admit, I'm kinda shocked that anything was filed in this case
Yeah, there wasn't that much there, but on the other hand, he's a police captain with no excuse for what he did, and he assaulted a game official, so by charging him I think you send a message that absolutely needs to be sent. I think a misdemeanor charge is highly appropriate here. If the DA drops the charges in exchange for being suspended from coaching and a reprimand from his law enforcement agency, I think that would be a wholly appropriate outcome.

The official is not without blame. There was inexperience involved, for sure. I hope she acknowledges that she could have handled it differently, and more importantly I hope she learns from this and continues to officiate.
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Old Sun Jan 28, 2018, 09:05pm
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I agree with everyone who says there's a not a lot there, and that it was obviously very poorly handled by the official. And if she hadn't decided to blow the whistle directly in his face (she's a child, after all), the assault never happens.

But perhaps this guy was being "that guy" from the stands all game long (we all know the type in these hot-mess rec leagues) and when he was suddenly all the way onto the court, just feet from the officials he had perhaps been riding like a lunatic all night, she finally lost it and went lunatic too.

Doesn't justify it. Just a theory ...

And his kid did not look hurt enough to warrant a parent trip to the court. He could've just met him at the bench.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:27am
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The kid definitely did not need to walk towards the parent in this situation. She needed to identify who her site administrator was and let them deal with removing the officer. I too hope the kid sticks with our craft and learns from this.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:17am
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I wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:21am
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i wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:37am
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Credit the cell phone video which memorialized this inconsequential kerfuffle.
A adult making contact with a youth official is not an inconsequential kerfuffle.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:45am
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I wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?
The assault charge (plus other charges) would have been immediate, not weeks later after an investigation.
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