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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:34am
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:36pm
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A adult making contact with a youth official is not an inconsequential kerfuffle.
Not to mention that the cell phone was probably only pulled out to take the video because the parent was already making a scene.

If the guy was quietly walking onto the court to be helpful to the injured player there's no issue. I'd bet that this guy was already yelling at the official and making a scene before the video even started.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:19pm
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Not to mention that the cell phone was probably only pulled out to take the video because the parent was already making a scene ...
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:43pm
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The official obviously did not handle it well. But she is a 17 year old minor with little or no training. (Could be my daughter.) He is an adult male police captain a head taller than her. He needs to take the much higher, smarter and calmer road. He should never, never ever have come close to touching the official much less pushing her. And like someone said, if anyone ever pushed an officer in uniform while they were on scene that person would rightfully so be on the ground in handcuffs and charged with assaulting a police officer. This is not an insignificant matter. He should be charged, plead to a deal and get some training.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 04:52pm
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The official obviously did not handle it well. But she is a 17 year old minor with little or no training. (Could be my daughter.) He is an adult male police captain a head taller than her. He needs to take the much higher, smarter and calmer road. He should never, never ever have come close to touching the official much less pushing her. And like someone said, if anyone ever pushed an officer in uniform while they were on scene that person would rightfully so be on the ground in handcuffs and charged with assaulting a police officer. This is not an insignificant matter. He should be charged, plead to a deal and get some training.
Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 07:34pm
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Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.
Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES
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Old Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:42pm
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Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.
There are plenty of regular folks who would be charged with battery for such an act; and arrested on the spot if law enforcement were available.

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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 08:57am
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Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES
Maybe.

I think there has to be a pattern of him boiling over, some type of trend that shows he has a problem with managing his anger/emotions, for him to be fired from his job.

This incident, in and of itsself, probably isn't sufficient cause.

Time will tell, though.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 10:53am
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I don't condone any of his actions. However I do believe the work shove is not the correct term to use to describe what took place.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 10:59am
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I don't condone any of his actions. However I do believe the work shove is not the correct term to use to describe what took place.

Agreed. His actions cannot be condoned. His punishment should "fit the crime". The severity of the punishment should take the entire picture of his career to date into account, as well.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 11:36am
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I do feel as though someone in his position needs to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:01pm
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I wonder how he would handle being shoved while in uniform?
This assumes that everyone in a striped uniform is an official.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:03pm
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Bingo.
Or this rec-mess is already so out of hand that a kid ended up with a broken arm?
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:12pm
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Worthy of losing his job? HECK YES
And if his kids arm is broken, because these untrained high school kids were put in this horrible situation?
You want to now ruin his career and hurt his family?
Did this girl who clearly acts like she can handle herself lose some sense of self-worth?
As a dad of four daughters and I'd want to take this guy out and kick his ___. But it'd be over after that as far as I'm concerned.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:18pm
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Charged? meh....he didn't two hand push or punch her. He emotionally brushed her aside with fingertips. Disrespectful? Heck yes. Embarrassing? Heck yes. Worthy or admonishment/punishment? Heck yes.
Worthy of being charged with a crime? Probably not. Worthy of a public and one on one apology to the official and her family. HECK YES.
Agreed!
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