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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:21pm
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I do feel as though someone in his position needs to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen.
If an I.T. guy does this, we don't really care if he gets fired? Instead let's fire the public servant doing a job that many of us will not or could not do...
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:44pm
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If an I.T. guy does this, we don't really care if he gets fired? Instead let's fire the public servant doing a job that many of us will not or could not do...
I'm not necessarily suggesting he be fired, but he should be held to a higher standard, yes. Keep in mind this was obviously investigated and they're going off of more than what's on the video.

How would someone who did the same to him in his official role be treated?
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 12:51pm
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I'm not necessarily suggesting he be fired, but he should be held to a higher standard, yes. Keep in mind this was obviously investigated and they're going off of more than what's on the video.

How would someone who did the same to him in his official role be treated?
I hope there is more reasoning for his firing than that video!
BTW: This is not that young lady's "official role" - so this isn't apples to apples.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 01:08pm
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BTW: This is not that young lady's "official role" - so this isn't apples to apples.
Which makes her far more vulnerable to abusive adults . . .
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 01:10pm
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I hope there is more reasoning for his firing than that video!
BTW: This is not that young lady's "official role" - so this isn't apples to apples.
I'm suggesting that if someone had done the same to him in his role as an officer, they'd have been treated a lot more harshly than he has been so far.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 01:44pm
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Which makes her far more vulnerable to abusive adults . . .
We have different versions of abuse - clearly.
He was wrong!
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 02:10pm
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I'm suggesting that if someone had done the same to him in his role as an officer, they'd have been treated a lot more harshly than he has been so far.
Try this: 17 year old boy; clearly irritated mother (even a cop) comes out of the stands. The boy blows his whistle in her face and she shoves him away, then grabs her daughter (crying and holding her arm) and begins walking away. Boy is now trolling her like the young lady was trolling this dad.
What do you have? NOTHING, and I agree!
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 02:23pm
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The assault charge (plus other charges) would have been immediate, not weeks later after an investigation.
No. They can come after the investigation.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 03:34pm
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And if his kids arm is broken, because these untrained high school kids were put in this horrible situation?
You want to now ruin his career and hurt his family?
Did this girl who clearly acts like she can handle herself lose some sense of self-worth?
As a dad of four daughters and I'd want to take this guy out and kick his ___. But it'd be over after that as far as I'm concerned.
As someone else said in this thread, higher standards apply to some people depending on the job they hold. This is one of them. Is it fair? Maybe not.

If you as an official go to a game and cry and complain about the officiating, then the microscope is turned back on you. People notice that. That behavior is not allowed and depending upon where you work, you may be suspended or put on probation depending upon the severity.

And to make it clear, no, I do not want to ruin his career, but he is the one that put himself in that situation.
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Old Tue Jan 30, 2018, 05:29pm
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This is another reminder for why every state should include "sports officials" as a special victim or have included legislation designed to protect officials.

State Legislation - National Association of Sports Officials

Incidents like these become treated differently with these types of rules. They make it much easier for administrators to have a backbone. If you're state does not have this in place, I would encourage you to reach out individually or through your state associations to adopt.
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Old Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:40pm
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If the cop were in uniform and was called to the scene... and a citizen did what he did to the referee, the citizen would have been thrown to the ground and handcuffed... letís see what the judicial system does....
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