GHSA Forces Replay of Game's Final Second

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing for the "refs cost us the game," because as noted there are a zillion events that went into the result. (And I've seen very, very few games where that is a fair statement--not zero, but very, very few.) And I agree that, in most games, the mistakes by the referees roughly balance out over the course of a game (and if not a game, a season). But that doesn't mean that a referee mistake at the end of a game didn't change the result of a game.

I don't think that he is arguing that a mistake by the official(s) could have changed the outcome of the game. I think the point is that mistakes by a player, team, coach, or official throughout the course of the game can have an effect on the outcome. You shouldn't get to pinpoint one of infinite possibilities because it happens at the end of the game.

That is a bit like viewing video from a play and saying it would be a foul in the first minute of a game but not the last. That is not how officiating or rules work.

[ChuckS]

Team B leading, 50-49. A1 goes for a layup, and as the ball is in the air, the final buzzer sounds, the ball enters the basket, and airborne A1 and B1 collide. If you call charge, B wins. If you call a block or no-call, A wins. There are some here saying that your call determines the outcome. And I say….how can we ignore the other 99 points? (and missed shots, violations, etc…..)

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by ChuckS

Team B leading, 50-49. A1 goes for a layup, and as the ball is in the air, the final buzzer sounds, the ball enters the basket, and airborne A1 and B1 collide. If you call charge, B wins. If you call a block or no-call, A wins. There are some here saying that your call determines the outcome. And I say….how can we ignore the other 99 points? (and missed shots, violations, etc…..)

Correct me if I am wrong but this would be a no call. I don't believe that you can have a common foul after the buzzer/time expiration.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

Correct me if I am wrong but this would be a no call. I don't believe that you can have a common foul after the buzzer/time expiration.

Does the expiration of time always cause the ball to become dead?

Also you need to read Rule 4-19-1.

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Does the expiration of time always cause the ball to become dead?

Also you need to read Rule 4-19-1.

EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne
shooter returns to the floor, when:
a. Article 5, 6, or 7 occurs while a try or tap for a field goal is in flight.
b. Article 5 or 7 occurs while a try for a free throw is in flight.
c. Article 7 occurs by any opponent of a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is in the
act of shooting) before the foul occurred, provided time did not expire before the ball was in
flight. The trying motion must be continuous and begins after the ball comes to rest in the
player’s hand(s) on a try or touches the hand(s) on a tap, and is completed when the ball is
clearly in flight. The trying motion may include arm, foot or body movements used by the
player when throwing the ball at his/her basket.
d. Article 9 as in 9-3-3 or 9-13-1, occurs by an opponent.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

Correct me if I am wrong but this would be a no call. I don't believe that you can have a common foul after the buzzer/time expiration.

You're wrong.