At what point...

[packersowner]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

That was my question too. The statement "I recognize you are wanting to move up the ranks. I am not here to hold you back, I do this for the camaraderie and being involved in the game." makes me wonder what part of your normal approach is so out of the ordinary that it would hold someone back?

Appreciate all of the feedback thus far.

In the past he has made comments such as "I'm working on moving up to the next level, high school games are a way for me to get exposure." "We have to do a good job as a crew, we get rated by officials as a group." "Did you like your call on X play? I thought you missed it, those are the kinds of things that for me I have to get right."

We have a number of officials who see high school basketball as a stepping stone. I am okay with that, they have different ambitions in life. I married a pretty girl, have a family and a good career. Basketball is my escape from my boss wanting my TPS reports done sooner. Its 32 minutes on the court, but we all know that if you are invested in it, its pre-game and post game time with our partners. And I spend the majority of my travel to and from games mentally preparing or reviewing. So to JRuts comment, I think its more than just a difference of calls in those 32 minutes.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Danvrapp

Right, but if I block some official or some place, does the assignor know who blocked whom or is there a more general message to the effect of "one of these officials is unable to be assigned to this game..."

Depends how deep the assignor cares to look. I have one assignor who looks to see if you are blocked. He never checks to see what the cause of the block is. Sometimes the block is one of his games in situations where games get rescheduled.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by LRZ

I am curious: what is the source of the tension? A difference in how tight or loose to call games?

I presume that you are inquiring about the OP. As a side note, there are a million reasons to not want to work with another official. Some are truly valid and objective based on no-tension-whatsoever while others are. Officials can also block schools as well as levels/genders, etc.

[LRZ]

Originally Posted by packersowner

In the past he has made comments such as "I'm working on moving up to the next level, high school games are a way for me to get exposure." "We have to do a good job as a crew, we get rated by officials as a group." "Did you like your call on X play? I thought you missed it, those are the kinds of things that for me I have to get right."

OK, now I think I get it--he's passive-aggressively questioning your judgment. I work with some officials like that. I generally can ignore the tacit criticism.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by packersowner

We have a number of officials who see high school basketball as a stepping stone. I am okay with that, they have different ambitions in life. I married a pretty girl, have a family and a good career. Basketball is my escape from my boss wanting my TPS reports done sooner. Its 32 minutes on the court, but we all know that if you are invested in it, its pre-game and post-game time with our partners. And I spend the majority of my travel to and from games mentally preparing or reviewing. So to JRuts comment, I think its more than just a difference of calls in those 32 minutes.

Again, I get it on some level. But if you are only working with a person 2 or 3 times a year, that is not very many times. And even if you pre-game or post-game with someone, that again is not very much time. Actually, I am probably with a person on a varsity game only about a couple of hours that night. In your OP, you did not describe any of the other comments. That is why I was confused what the issue was.

We all have personality conflicts. We all have bad experiences. Kind of comes with the territory. We are dealing with people and people do not always see eye to eye on many things.

I guess if you want to block him, then do that. If you have the ability to do that, then click the button or make the call to make that happen. I just think sometimes that is an extreme way to deal with people that if you do this long enough will be many more people you will not want to work with. Just get through it and go home or like Mick used to say, "Get in, Get Done and Get out." How many games are you working a year and 2 or 3 times are that bad you cannot work less than probably 5 percent of your schedule?

Peace

[ODog]

Some people are just douches and life is too short. Block them. No apologies or explanation necessary. There are many officials and many games. Life will go on for you and for your assignor without you having to do a game with a blocked individual.

And you won't be missing out on anything, because any game this individual(s) does, you wouldn't want to have done with him anyway.

Block ... him.

If your assignor offers the option, take it. If there's a limit to the number of partners you can block, block right up to that limit. You can avoid A LOT of cringing, dread and train-wreck games with weak/obstinate/douche partners this way.

You'll enjoy your seasons a lot more knowing that you'll never get games with these people. Trust me.

[LRZ]

Don't let that guy get into your head to create that tension. If you can't block him, have confidence in your own abilities and call your game. Then, when he offers his post-game remarks, just nod politely.

[HokiePaul]

Seems like the guy does a bit more dissecting of the game than you prefer. I would just be honest and confident in your communication - if he asks about a play, you can respond honesty (I had a pretty good look and saw illegal contact; I didn't have the best angle so maybe I missed something; I didn't like that call and wish I had waited a second to see how the play finished; etc.).

[Coach Bill]

This is an interesting thread. Sounds like you think the guy is coming across as "I'm good. You stink. Stop bringing me down." If he really thought that way, he should be the one blocking you, not the other way around.

On the other hand, this could all be in your head. You said, "..he's a good official, never complains about his partners or calls..." So, what's the source of tension?

Don't block him, yet. At this point, it sounds like your only reason to give your assigner would be something like: "He wants to call a good game, and have his partners do the same." That would not be a good reason.

Next time you work with him, instead of beating around the bush, just say, "I get the impression you don't respect my officiating. If that's true, and you think I'm holding you back, go ahead and block me. No hard feelings."

It might actually wake him up to the way he's been acting towards you.