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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 02:26pm
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This is about the only thing in my pregame with coaches that I consider to be significant. I tell them "We're not going to chase you into the huddle begging for an answer. If you want a 30 make sure we see a signal, otherwise you WILL get a full."

It's never been a problem.
My pregame meeting with both coaches at the same time (required here) consists of “Players legally equipped?” and “Let us know if you have any questions.” My meetings are very brief, perhaps out of spite for some of the guys I work with who like to recite the entire book.

That being said, I have no issue with saying what you say in your pregame and might even incorporate it into mine. While I’m at it, I’m going to start asking for the speaking captain, remind everyone we’re playing the blue line all the way around, and tell everyone “white talk to white, blue talk to blue.”
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 02:28pm
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My pregame meeting with both coaches at the same time (required here) consists of “Players legally equipped?” and “Let us know if you have any questions.” My meetings are very brief, perhaps out of spite for some of the guys I work with who like to recite the entire book.

That being said, I have no issue with saying what you say in your pregame and might even incorporate it into mine. While I’m at it, I’m going to start asking for the speaking captain, remind everyone we’re playing the blue line all the way around, and tell everyone “white talk to white, blue talk to blue.”
Likewise

Don't forget to congratulate them on making varsity.
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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 03:46pm
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This was discussed at my association meeting last night--it seems around here the "When in Rome" thing to do is if they don't give you an answer, default to a full.

No clue if this is proper procedure elsewhere.
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Why do we need to say something in the pregame that coaches already know? They know they are supposed to tell you what kind of timeout they want. If they do not know that, they will figure it out when we go with the timeout they did not tell us about. I never tell coaches anything in the pre-game about timeout communication. It is often a waste of time and they tell us anyway. At least that is the case with the varsity coaches.

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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 04:22pm
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Why do we need to say something in the pregame that coaches already know? They know they are supposed to tell you what kind of timeout they want. If they do not know that, they will figure it out when we go with the timeout they did not tell us about. I never tell coaches anything in the pre-game about timeout communication. It is often a waste of time and they tell us anyway. At least that is the case with the varsity coaches.

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50% of the time I can make eye contact with an AC and he will let me know.

But I guess since I don't run over to the HC and ask him an explicit question, I'm not communicating.
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50% of the time I can make eye contact with an AC and he will let me know.

But I guess since I don't run over to the HC and ask him an explicit question, I'm not communicating.
It is not uncommon that the AC is the one that clarifies their choice. By rule the HC is supposed to give the information, but if the AC is that disconnected then that is not my issue, that is the team's issue.

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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 06:12pm
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Why do we need to say something in the pregame that coaches already know? They know they are supposed to tell you what kind of timeout they want. If they do not know that, they will figure it out when we go with the timeout they did not tell us about. I never tell coaches anything in the pre-game about timeout communication. It is often a waste of time and they tell us anyway. At least that is the case with the varsity coaches.

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Thats the norm here and it drives me nuts. "Coaches, help us out on full or 30's" 9x out 10, I still find myself asking them what they want.

Also, I am not really a fan of telling kids "white talk to white, blue talk to blue" Its another do as they do in Rome thing, but where does it stop. Again 9x out of 10, the kid coming to the pre-game conference isn't the knot-head that is going to run his mouth.

I do tell them if they have questions come ask myself or my partners, I want them to know as a captain I may need them later in the game to go tell their teammate to knock it off.

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Thats the norm here and it drives me nuts. "Coaches, help us out on full or 30's" 9x out 10, I still find myself asking them what they want.



Also, I am not really a fan of telling kids "white talk to white, blue talk to blue" Its another do as they do in Rome thing, but where does it stop. Again 9x out of 10, the kid coming to the pre-game conference isn't the knot-head that is going to run his mouth.



I do tell them if they have questions come ask myself or my partners, I want them to know as a captain I may need them later in the game to go tell their teammate to knock it off.



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Thats the norm here and it drives me nuts. "Coaches, help us out on full or 30's" 9x out 10, I still find myself asking them what they want.

Also, I am not really a fan of telling kids "white talk to white, blue talk to blue" Its another do as they do in Rome thing, but where does it stop. Again 9x out of 10, the kid coming to the pre-game conference isn't the knot-head that is going to run his mouth.

I do tell them if they have questions come ask myself or my partners, I want them to know as a captain I may need them later in the game to go tell their teammate to knock it off.

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It's the norm here to ask for the speaking captain, to say "white talk to white, blue talk to blue," to ask coaches to "let us know 30 or 60," and some of the other hackneyed fluff. And I don't say any of it. Nowhere is it a requirement.

We have a combined meeting with coaches and captains here. When I'm the R, the elapsed time from when I start speaking until I end with "Have a good game" is roughly 20 seconds.

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Old Mon Jan 08, 2018, 11:04pm
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It's the norm here to ask for the speaking captain, to say "white talk to white, blue talk to blue," to ask coaches to "let us know 30 or 60," and some of the other hackneyed fluff. And I don't say any of it. Nowhere is it a requirement.

We have a combined meeting with coaches and captains here. When I'm the R, the elapsed time from when I start speaking until I end with "Have a good game" is roughly 20 seconds.
I am not frowning on anyone who wants to say any of the classic lines. In my experience, if a kid is a captain and has been for 2 - 3 years through the different levels, they've probably heard the same thing 60 plus times.

I'm more likely to say, "play hard and make momma proud"

I just think we have to realize that kids and coaches look at that meeting as a check mark. Anything we can do to not be robotic is probably worth it.
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