Warning for Delay?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The original post was, almost word for word, the same as 10.1.5 SITUATION D, which ends up with a delay of game warning. It's indisputable.

An immediate technical foul, without the benefit of a warning, would be for something like interfering with the thrower’s efforts to make a throw-in, like the defender reaching through the boundary plane and knocking the ball out of the inbounder's hands.

In one case the defender is interfering with the ball, in the other case the defender is interfering with the inbounder. That's a big difference.

The key in my decision to issue a TF in OP is that the Ball was knocked 15 feet away from the End Line, meaning, to me, that the Ball was knocked quite a way from the Team who was entitled to make the Throw-in. If the ball had been knocked only a few feet I would only issued a Delay of Game Warning.

MTD, Sr.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The key in my decision to issue a TF in OP is that the Ball was knocked 15 feet away from the End Line, meaning, to me, that the Ball was knocked quite a way from the Team who was entitled to make the Throw-in. If the ball had been knocked only a few feet I would only issued a Delay of Game Warning.

MTD, Sr.

He knocked the ball away and it rolled 15 feet. What if it only rolled 13, would you still T? Hitting the ball 3 feet or 15 is the same act, just a different outcome. I don't think we should apply harsher penalties based on distance ball traveled here. Just my $.02.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

He knocked the ball away and it rolled 15 feet. What if it only rolled 13, would you still T? Hitting the ball 3 feet or 15 is the same act, just a different outcome. I don't think we should apply harsher penalties based on distance ball traveled here.

Hey. Along with an extra whistle, I've got a tape measure in my pocket, I know how to use it, and I'm not afraid to use it.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by deecee

I don't think we should apply harsher penalties based on distance ball traveled here.

Indeed, this has been discussed. Deecee's point is understood however, for me, distance traveled and method influence harshness of penalty. Lightly slapping the ball 3 feet away is much different than punting the ball 40 yards into the stands.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bucky

Indeed, this has been discussed. Deecee's point is understood however, for me, distance traveled and method influence harshness of penalty. Lightly slapping the ball 3 feet away is much different than punting the ball 40 yards into the stands.

Lightly tapping versus punting are 2 different acts. The distance travelled is not what is penalized.

[Pantherdreams]

In regards to OP if team knocks ball away and causes a delay that is what I am calling. First time warning. Ensuing times respond accordingly.

This is not as complicated a decision in Feeble as clock is stopping on every made basket in last 2 min.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

In regards to OP if team knocks ball away and causes a delay that is what I am calling. First time warning. Ensuing times respond accordingly.

This is not as complicated a decision in Feeble as clock is stopping on every made basket in last 2 min.

Instead of a shot clock, my preference for a timing change in NFHS would be to stop the clock in the last minute after a made basket.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by deecee

Lightly tapping versus punting are 2 different acts. The distance travelled is not what is penalized.

All acts are different resulting in all distances being different. Distance appears to be main factor when adjudicating this type of case.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bucky

All acts are different resulting in all distances being different. Distance appears to be main factor when adjudicating this type of case.

So a player smacks a ball and it goes 15 feet away, versus a player smacks a ball in the same manner and force and it goes 3 feet you would adjudicate differently? does it matter that in one scenario a fan comes and help, or a player hustles more? Or is the manner in HOW the ball is struck doesn't matter, its' distance?.