Warning for Delay?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Hmm, imagine calling T in this situation, where have we read that before?

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I would have charged A1 with a TF for Delay of Game and issued a Scorebook Warning to Team A for a Delay of Game.

In don't recall anybody suggesting to charge a technical foul for an unsporting act, at least one Forum member suggested charging a technical foul for a delay of game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In don't recall anybody suggesting to charge a technical foul for an unsporting act, at least me Forum member suggested charging a technical foul for a delay of game.

No I clearly said I would call a T and it wouldn't be for delay of game.

Go back and reread the thread and you'll see I even gave a rules reference for the T I would call.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

No I clearly said I would call a T and it wouldn't be for delay of game. Go back and reread the thread and you'll see I even gave a rules reference for the T I would call.

Here's what my interpreter would hang his hat on: 10-2-4 Team Technical: Shall not commit an unsporting foul.

Note: I was referring to the most recent thread, not the older one.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Here's what my interpreter would hang his hat on: 10-2-4 Team Technical: Shall not commit an unsporting foul.

Note: I was referring to the most recent thread, not the older one.

10-4-5a is sufficient for issuing a Player Technical.

[so cal lurker]

All of this makes me wonder if a rule change would make this easier. Abolish delay warnings. Get rid of the T for delay after a warning. Take all of the plays that are delays: stop play and charge a TO to the team committing the delaying action. That means there is an actual consequence the first time and that there is a simple T for calling an excessive TO in the kinds of cases we are talking about here.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

All of this makes me wonder if a rule change would make this easier. Abolish delay warnings. Get rid of the T for delay after a warning. Take all of the plays that are delays: stop play and charge a TO to the team committing the delaying action. That means there is an actual consequence the first time and that there is a simple T for calling an excessive TO in the kinds of cases we are talking about here.

I didn't know delay of games were so rampant. I may have had a handful each year. I don't think this is as big a problem as you or some others on this board think it is.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by deecee

I didn't know delay of games were so rampant. I may have had a handful each year. I don't think this is as big a problem as you or some others on this board think it is.

Rampant? No. Annoying? Yes.

In watching my son's varsity games this year, I think I've seen three or four warnings given, and IMHO each was clearly warranted. I think 3 or 4 others could/should have been given, when players created delays as they were setting up a press. (And I have also heard silly parents yelling for warnings that were simply absurd. But that's a separate issue.)

The time it really matters, IMO, is in that end game scenario where it is a deliberate act in an attempt to force the refs to stop the clock. Existing rules aside, there are two philosophical approaches the game could take: (1) hey, they haven't been warned yet, so they are entitled to do that, or (2) we don't like that and don't want it to happen. My TO rule would address it simply, and would be under the second philosophy.