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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 01:11am
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Perception to who?
Partners. The last thing I want to see my partner doing is having a chummy conversation with a coach who I just stuck.

In addition to the fact that it’s generally taught at camps to leave the coach alone other than to remind him he’s lost the box.
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 07:01am
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Maybe ???

Maybe he's backing you up by explaining the call previous to the meltdown that led to the technical foul? Hopefully, it would be a very short, and not a very "chummy", conversation.
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:33am
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Partners. The last thing I want to see my partner doing is having a chummy conversation with a coach who I just stuck.

In addition to the fact that it’s generally taught at camps to leave the coach alone other than to remind him he’s lost the box.
Why?
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:52am
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Trust Issue?

You need to trust your partners that they are doing the right thing. If they are throwing you under the bus you need to address it with the assignor. As an assignor, crew integrity is a huge thing for me and I would address it with the official and it would/could cost them assignments.

I'm not saying this is the case, but to me if it is happening a bunch on your T's and you are always watching the other officials engage than you may be second guessing yourself?!?!?!? I only say this because I am usually thankful when a partner of mine will go help manage the game by getting the coaches focus back on the game.

Here is a real life example in a collegiate game: My partner called a T on a coach and the coach was livid but not deserving of being tossed. The gym was crazy loud (coach was of the visiting team) and the fans were giving it to him. I went over just to tell him we needed to move on and I kept him engaged with me and said "coach, get it out now because when these free throws are done, you need to get back to coaching or you'll have to leave." Coach said his peace, wasn't profane towards us and coached the remainder of the contest. Maybe it was luck, but I honestly don't think we could have handled it better as a crew for that situation.
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 10:23am
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Partners. The last thing I want to see my partner doing is having a chummy conversation with a coach who I just stuck.

In addition to the fact that it’s generally taught at camps to leave the coach alone other than to remind him he’s lost the box.
I try not to make issuing a technical foul an emotional thing. Just enforcing the rule. I don't hold any animosity towards the coach and have no issue with my partner being there as long as the coach is behaving. Basically after the call I'm moving on and would have no problem resuming normal communication with the coach.

I'm going to trust that my partner is not doing something crazy like telling the coach they didn't deserve the T -- maybe if that happens one time I will change my opinion.
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Old Fri Dec 15, 2017, 11:02am
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I try not to make issuing a technical foul an emotional thing. Just enforcing the rule. I don't hold any animosity towards the coach and have no issue with my partner being there as long as the coach is behaving. Basically after the call I'm moving on and would have no problem resuming normal communication with the coach.
That sounds wonderful, but they think you hold emotion penalizing them. They think your actions were personal.

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I'm going to trust that my partner is not doing something crazy like telling the coach they didn't deserve the T -- maybe if that happens one time I will change my opinion.
That is why many officials do not want to talk to coaches after giving a T. Because even when you say the most specific thing to them about a rule, they will try to suggest you said something else. Again I cannot quote silence and if I say nothing, then nothing can be used later.

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