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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:22am
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The defender ran squarely into the small of the screener's back; that won't change no matter how much you are upset about the play. Her a$$ & hips had nothing to do with the contact.
I'm not upset about the play. I just don't agree with you. Continuing to say the same thing that I don't agree with isn't going to change my mind. Appreciate your perspective though.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 09:53am
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I'm not upset about the play. I just don't agree with you. Continuing to say the same thing that I don't agree with isn't going to change my mind. Appreciate your perspective though.
Video doesn't lie. Has nothing to do with philosophies or agreement or anything else.

I use video to get better, not to validate my opinions.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 10:47am
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I'm not exactly extremely tech savvy and for whatever reason, my pictures are too big to post here. Here is a Google draw frame-by-frame. You're telling me in these pics, if she were leaning that much on a defender coming from her front (leaning in any direction, front, side-to-side), you aren't calling that illegal?

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 10:50am
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 10:52am
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No because she stopped. And she ran directly into her back. She did not stick her butt out, she ran into her no matter what she did because the defender was not paying at all attention.

Sorry, but if that is your logic, it is not very good logic. And this is why you cannot show pictures because her feet a planted on the floor and the defender runs directly into her.

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 10:55am
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I don't have the NCAA book handy here, but here's Fed rules for screening:

(d.) The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

Is she within her vertical plane?
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:09am
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I don't have the NCAA book handy here, but here's Fed rules for screening:

(d.) The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

Is she within her vertical plane?
Yes she is. She stopped. Her body was clearly in her space. She did not exaggerate her space to cause any contact with the defender. You obviously did not look at where she made contact with the screener's back on your created picture. She did not run into her butt, she ran into the square part of her back.

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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:25am
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I don't have the NCAA book handy here, but here's Fed rules for screening:

(d.) The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

Is she within her vertical plane?
The NCAA-Men's rule is similar. But if contact is to the torso, the legality of the stance is irrelevant. It's been brought up in at least 75% of the college pre-games I've had this season.
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Old Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:02pm
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I don't have the NCAA book handy here, but here's Fed rules for screening:

(d.) The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

Is she within her vertical plane?
Not really, but irrelevant. Verticality, if you want to hang your hat on that one, is about extending outside for space towards your opponent. This screener in this play is leaning her torso AWAY from the opponent.

And no matter how may times you want to claiming, this screener did NOT stick her butt out. The video shows that clearly. All she did was come to a stop by sticking her feet out (away from the defender) to be able to stop (like a jump stop).

The video just not support what you're saying happened.
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