Illegal screens?

[Layman]

Originally Posted by wyo96

#1 is legal, the distance is not a factor as they were both going the "same" direction before #21 stopped and was ran into.

I'm just wondering: in #1 how are they judged to be going in the "same direction"? The screener was going north-south and the defender was running diagonally.

Also, #21 doesn't even get her feet set until the defender is right on her shoulder. You don't think she's late?

I also feel like the thrusts her hips backward to help create the contact. I realize this may not be super-obvious (and hence the color analyst thought it was not a foul), but IMHO she clearly moves her hips a little bit.

Thanks to everyone for chiming in. It's great to hear the feedback.

[wyo96]

Originally Posted by Layman

I'm just wondering: in #1 how are they judged to be going in the "same direction"? The screener was going north-south and the defender was running diagonally.

Also, #21 doesn't even get her feet set until the defender is right on her shoulder. You don't think she's late?

I also feel like the thrusts her hips backward to help create the contact. I realize this may not be super-obvious (and hence the color analyst thought it was not a foul), but IMHO she clearly moves her hips a little bit.

Thanks to everyone for chiming in. It's great to hear the feedback.

Also, welcome and good plays to discuss for your 1st post.

I used quotes for "same" because while not exactly the same direction, both were moving up the floor, 21 stopped, girl ran into her. Nothing to call. As others said I don't think the hips moved back, they moved upon contact. Don't need your feet set if you have legal position and she did.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Also, welcome and good plays to discuss for your 1st post.

I used quotes for "same" because while not exactly the same direction, both were moving up the floor, 21 stopped, girl ran into her. Nothing to call. As others said I don't think the hips moved back, they moved upon contact. Don't need your feet set if you have legal position and she did.

Got me it’s not a matter of her moving into girl or not. She simply stops short but doesn’t give the defender time or space to react. Illegal screen.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Got me it’s not a matter of her moving into girl or not. She simply stops short but doesn’t give the defender time or space to react. Illegal screen.

Not relevant. You never have to give time for the opponent to react when a player stops. That is for moving INTO another player's path. When it is a matter of one player following another (same path/direction) the following player is responsible for contact if the player in front stops regardless of the time/distance.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not relevant. You never have to give time for the opponent to react when a player stops. That is for moving INTO another player's path. When it is a matter of one player following another (same path/direction) the following player is responsible for contact if the player in front stops regardless of the time/distance.

Agree to disagree I do not believe the6nare moving in same direction or following same path. If they. We’re there would be an Oreo type hit ball moving forward, girl getting sandwich not a side on hit.

[Layman]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Also, welcome and good plays to discuss for your 1st post.

I used quotes for "same" because while not exactly the same direction, both were moving up the floor, 21 stopped, girl ran into her. Nothing to call. As others said I don't think the hips moved back, they moved upon contact. Don't need your feet set if you have legal position and she did.

Thanks! This is exactly why I joined the forum. I knew I'd learn a lot.