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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 01:35pm
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Do y'all ever give verbal warnings below the the threshold of a formal warning? I'm frankly surprised how much some teams touch the ball after they score,and how rarely it seems to be addressed (from the stands I wouldn't know if there was a mild "knock it off" from the ref)--even when that team is setting up a press and gaining at least a marginal advantage from the contact. (And I have the un-quantifiable impression that it happens more with the referee teams that I would consider less skilled.)
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 02:31pm
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Do y'all ever give verbal warnings below the the threshold of a formal warning? I'm frankly surprised how much some teams touch the ball after they score,and how rarely it seems to be addressed (from the stands I wouldn't know if there was a mild "knock it off" from the ref)--even when that team is setting up a press and gaining at least a marginal advantage from the contact. (And I have the un-quantifiable impression that it happens more with the referee teams that I would consider less skilled.)
I have, but simply touching the ball is not a delay. Often they touch the ball and it never delays the game. I do caution them with contacting the ball if it might, even more, a moment cause a delay, but if they do it bad enough there is no informal warning.

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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 03:15pm
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How about when the scoring team throws the ball to you, the new T official? I nearly always call a DOG if done.

Sometimes, the scoring team may strike the ball but if the inbounding team is not trying to obtain it or trying to go quickly, then it really isn't a delay. Many times in those instances a verbal warning to the offender/teammates will work.

Case by case.

The OP seemed to have something obvious. Seemed obvious that the player was intentionally mocking the rule/game and doing everything possible to coerce the official into stopping the clock and issuing a DOG. I say T in that situation. I might even let the clock run some more...and then call a T.
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 06:18pm
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... simply touching the ball is not a delay. Often they touch the ball and it never delays the game.
Sometimes the ball hits, and deflects, off a player as the ball comes through the net.
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 06:23pm
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Another important thing to bring up in this that should be mentioned though I am sure we all know this.. the delay warning is a Team T. Player preventing the ball from becoming live is a Player T.
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 07:31pm
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Another important thing to bring up in this that should be mentioned though I am sure we all know this.. the delay warning is a Team T. Player preventing the ball from becoming live is a Player T.
Which is the infraction I would be penalizing on this play.
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 08:10pm
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Player preventing the ball from becoming live is a Player T. Which is the infraction I would be penalizing on this play.
Despite the fact that there is a rule, a casebook play, and an annual interpretation, that say to do otherwise.
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Old Mon Dec 04, 2017, 08:24pm
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Despite the fact that there is a rule, a casebook play, and an annual interpretation, that say to do otherwise.
Because there is 10-4-5 that says I can. I have a rules based option that will prevent an offending team from getting an unintended advantage of a different rule.

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