The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:31pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 734
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond View Post
#5 could be a cylinder play since the defender ended straddling the offensive player's leg. I believe a foul is called on the shot so that they could match the call in play #4.
But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:41pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,564
Quote:
Originally Posted by so cal lurker View Post
But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?
If you are leaning on the opponent and not allowing a basketball move, then you are kind of responsible.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,263
Quote:
Originally Posted by so cal lurker View Post
But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?
No. the offensive player can't create a 'new" cylinder by moving into a defender. If that were the case, that would mean a defender would just simply have to keep getting out of the way indefinitely. The defensive player only has to give enough room initially. If the offensive player erases that by moving closer, that is the offensive player's choice. The defender doesn't have to give more room.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:17pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 37
I thought #5 was a PC. He basically bulled through the defender who did nothing wrong.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:29pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,564
#7:


#8:


#9:



#10:


#11:


Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 01, 2017, 01:00am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Play 7: CC, Slot needs to report a chuck, not a hold.

Play 8: CC. So happy Lead had a whistle here /s

Play 9: IC

Play 10: CC block

Play 11: CC, Trail's play
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 01, 2017, 03:48am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: In the offseason.
Posts: 12,263
Play 7...good call.

Play 8...good call, defender was not vertical.

Play 9...great call. Screener didn't allow time/distance. The screen was blind and the opponent was moving. As for the coverage, that was the closest matchup to the L (no offensive players were even inside the 3-point arc). There was nothing else he could or should have been watching and he had the best view of that play. Both the C and the T were straightlined on that.

Play 10...good call. Even had 2-hands on the shooter briefly before the block.

Play 11. Contact, yes. But it was after the shot was away...the ball was about 2 feet out of the shooters hand at the time of the contact. That contact had no effect on the play and was incidental.
__________________
Owner/Developer of RefTown.com
Commissioner, Portland Basketball Officials Association
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 01, 2017, 07:48am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,847
On #8, why is lead putting a whistle on this from where he is?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 01, 2017, 08:46am
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,956
#7: One of those "fool the refs" play. A2 has his arm on top of B2's shoulder and then flings his arm back to make it appear he was bumped. Call doesn't hurt though as it lets the players know they are being watched off-ball.

#8: Lead has no reason for a double whistle, Center had the play all the way and had already put a whistle on it.

#9: Yes, the Lead should have this call. Trail has on-ball coverage and can't see the legality of screen. It is set by a player coming from outside his primary, so he needs help.

#10: Correct call. A1 did nothing wrong; B1 initiates the contact and then flops, causing A1 to be knocked off-balance.

#11: I would leave this to the Lead. Trail is behind the play, while the Lead has a perfect view between A1 and B1.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Fri Dec 01, 2017, 09:10am
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
On #8, why is lead putting a whistle on this from where he is?
Because Lead is n̶o̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶k̶e̶t̶b̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶e̶r̶e̶e̶ ball watching and not trusting his partner.

Last edited by AremRed; Fri Dec 01, 2017 at 10:11am. Reason: Edited to sound more PC for Rich and Ray
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Big Ten/ACC challenge Nevadaref Basketball 6 Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:24am
A Challenge! JugglingReferee Football 16 Sat Aug 23, 2008 06:25pm
A-10/ACC challenge ChuckElias Basketball 0 Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:57pm
Big 10/ACC challenge ChuckElias Basketball 51 Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:39pm
New challenge! DJ Basketball 0 Wed Feb 11, 2004 02:15pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1