Big Ten - ACC Challenge (More videos)

[JRutledge]

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Play 1: Very close but I prefer block on this play. CC

Play 2: Held ball is acceptable, CC

Play 3: Verticality, minimal (from this angle) A to B movement, CNC. Monitor review for the subsequent OOB play.

[Camron Rust]

1. Close, but I believe the defender was just a moment too late.

2. Held ball before the rollover.

3. The defender was jumping towards the shooter, albeit not very much. That would not be legal but the only contact was the shooters forearm into the defender's gut. Hard to call a block when that is the primary contact. Not enough for an offensive foul either. Good no call. Also, the lead was in absolutely the wrong place to see through that play. No way he could see either element from where he was. His spot wasn't normally a bad spot, but it didn't work for the way that play developed.

[bob jenkins]

Always listen to Camron

[JRutledge]

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Play 4: Nothing on back down, CC on hit on arm

Play 5: Nothing

Play 6: No and no

[BryanV21]

On play #5 the defender was leaning into the offensive player with his upper body. I certainly wouldn't say he was vertical.

[Raymond]

#5 could be a cylinder play since the defender ended straddling the offensive player's leg. I believe a foul is called on the shot so that they could match the call in play #4.

[Camron Rust]

4. Yes. He was displaced. If a defender bumped the ball handler out of position like that, I don't think we'd even ask the question. No calls like that are why defenders think they need to flop.

5. Defender had good position

6. Yes. A1 picked up the dribble (in both hands even) with the left foot down, stepped to the right, then stepped again with the left. If not for the travel, the defender was FAR from vertical, and it was about to be a foul, but the shooter lost the ball when the ball hit the defenders gut. Any contact that followed was not relevant.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

#5 could be a cylinder play since the defender ended straddling the offensive player's leg. I believe a foul is called on the shot so that they could match the call in play #4.

That is a very good point. I was not thinking cylinder play, but you are probably right in this case.

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[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Raymond

#5 could be a cylinder play since the defender ended straddling the offensive player's leg. I believe a foul is called on the shot so that they could match the call in play #4.

But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?

If you are leaning on the opponent and not allowing a basketball move, then you are kind of responsible.

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

But the defender is backing up and the attacker is moving into the defender--can the offensive player create a cylinder by moving into the defender?

No. the offensive player can't create a 'new" cylinder by moving into a defender. If that were the case, that would mean a defender would just simply have to keep getting out of the way indefinitely. The defensive player only has to give enough room initially. If the offensive player erases that by moving closer, that is the offensive player's choice. The defender doesn't have to give more room.