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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 09:05am
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As much as some want to try make officiating and play calling black and white and act as if it occurs in a vacuum, that's simply never going to be the case. There is always gray area that requires context and the ability to "intelligently" apply the rules to each play situation.

In my experience officials who fully fail to grasp this are often the ones who also don't understand why their schedules never advance to where they think it should.

We can quibble with the phrase "keep them in the game" if that's what was actually said in the OP's example. That's a poor choice of words. But the context is clear. If you are going to disqualify a player- ANY player and particularly key players- your "marginal needle" needs to be tuned accordingly.
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 10:55am
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I like to know who has 4 fouls so we be sure to remove the player on his / her 5th before we put the ball back in play (or are about to put the ball in play only to hear the buzzer)
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:00pm
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Buzzer ???

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I like to know who has 4 fouls so we be sure to remove the player on his / her 5th before we put the ball back in play (or are about to put the ball in play only to hear the buzzer)
You must be working with the same scorekeepers that I sometimes work with. Not knowing in advance who some of these scorekeepers are has gotten me into the habit of keeping an eye on the team fouls posted on the scoreboard in all of my games, even with experienced veteran scorekeepers, to prevent me from screwing up on a bonus or double bonus situation which could lead to a correctable error situation (unless it's too late to correct). Knowing that we're about to shoot bonus free throws also forces me to keep an eye on the shooter when my partner calls a foul, thus avoiding another type of correctable error.
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 11:26am
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In my experience officials who fully fail to grasp this are often the ones who also don't understand why their schedules never advance to where they think it should.
Same here. Same goes for those that try to never call what is expected by rules either. There is always a happy medium. Many for some reason cannot find that medium.

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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 12:05pm
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As much as some want to try make officiating and play calling black and white and act as if it occurs in a vacuum, that's simply never going to be the case. There is always gray area that requires context and the ability to "intelligently" apply the rules to each play situation.
Therefore, it is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may
be intelligently applied in each play situation.


There's a reason why this is at the beginning of the rulebook.
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 04:55pm
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Same here. Same goes for those that try to never call what is expected by rules either. There is always a happy medium. Many for some reason cannot find that medium.

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Yup. The opposite end of the spectrum is folks who think they can apply their own set of rules and personal philosophy to every situation regardless of rules/expectations.

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Therefore, it is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may
be intelligently applied in each play situation.


There's a reason why this is at the beginning of the rulebook.
Yes, this directly precedes Rule 1 in the rules book and I find myself increasingly referencing it in pre-games and conversations with fellow officials.

Its a helpful reminder for some who get too caught up in trying to follow the exact letter of the law in each situation when judgement and discretion are required.
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 05:42pm
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Its a helpful reminder for some who get too caught up in trying to follow the exact letter of the law in each situation when judgement and discretion are required.
It can also be used to rationalize not making the right call.
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Old Sun Nov 26, 2017, 06:07pm
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It can also be used to rationalize not making the right call.
Sure it can. But good officiating requires knowing the difference.

That's sort of the whole point.
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