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Old Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:19pm
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Stripes: "He can bobble it all the way down the court. Gotta have possession."
Coach: "He's gotta have possession? I've never heard that before."

Subconscious: "You would if you'd read the rule book."
Me: "Rule 4, Coach."
More accurately worded... "Gotta be holding the ball [to travel]", not just have possession. There is one exception, but this isn't it.
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Old Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:30pm
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In many of these clips, referees were responding to statements and not to questions......WALK AWAY !!!!!

We are our own worst enemies at times.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 12:08am
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In many of these clips, referees were responding to statements and not to questions......WALK AWAY !!!!!

We are our own worst enemies at times.
Yeah, that used to work, not so much anymore. You better respond to some statements or you will have a horrible night, if for no other reason to address situations so they do not continue.

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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 08:12am
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Are you really telling a coach all of that? Why?
I think he meant he would only tell the coach the part that was in quotes, i.e. "Gotta be holding the ball [to travel]"

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Yeah, that used to work, not so much anymore. You better respond to some statements or you will have a horrible night, if for no other reason to address situations so they do not continue.
Amen.

"Respond to questions, not statements" is another example of overused camp speak that in reality is not going to be successful for most people as a universal guideline.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:10am
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Amen.

"Respond to questions, not statements" is another example of overused camp speak that in reality is not going to be successful for most people as a universal guideline.
College supervisor just told us how silly that stance is now about not addressing statements a few weeks ago. I just think if you do not address them, things will get worse in their behavior. Yes, you should not comment every time they speak, but you certainly cannot ignore constant statements when you are in front of them. I would never say you have to even have a long conversation, but you might need to address bad behavior when warranted.

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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 11:29am
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College supervisor just told us how silly that stance is now about not addressing statements a few weeks ago. I just think if you do not address them, things will get worse in their behavior. Yes, you should not comment every time they speak, but you certainly cannot ignore constant statements when you are in front of them. I would never say you have to even have a long conversation, but you might need to address bad behavior when warranted.

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It might work at lower levels with less experienced officials and clueless coaches, but once you get to varsity basketball ignoring every statement is going to invite more trouble.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:02pm
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Yes, you should not comment every time they speak, but you certainly cannot ignore constant statements when you are in front of them.
One thing that has worked for me in that type of situation, rather than trying to give "answers" to a bunch of statements, is to ask, "Coach, do you have a question for me?". Sometimes that re-directs them just enough so they focus on one thing and you can answer and move on.

Sometimes you just get a sarcastic jerk who will say, "Yeah, when are you gonna stop making bad calls"? And then you have to decide how to handle him/her.

But that question has worked for me in the past.
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"Coach, do you have a question for me."
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 07:00pm
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I think he meant he would only tell the coach the part that was in quotes, i.e. "Gotta be holding the ball [to travel]"
Precisely.
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I have T's @ 1:05, 1:57, and 2:15. @ 2:15 the coach says he was already T'd up.
Why is he standing AND complaining?!
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:37am
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I have T's @ 1:05, 1:57, and 2:15. @ 2:15 the coach says he was already T'd up.
Why is he standing AND complaining?!
You're calling a tech at 1:57 for real?

Obviously these are in a vacuum but I am likely to have techs at 0:36, 1:09, 1:21, 1:29, 1:34.

2:00 sounds like he was about to get into tech territory for me, should have let the coach talk a little longer and hang himself.

There are some hilarious ones in there.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:49am
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You're calling a tech at 1:57 for real?

Obviously these are in a vacuum but I am likely to have techs at 0:36, 1:09, 1:21, 1:29, 1:34.

2:00 sounds like he was about to get into tech territory for me, should have let the coach talk a little longer and hang himself.

There are some hilarious ones in there.
Of those, 1:09, maybe 1:21 depending on circumstances, & 1:34.

But, on some, there are two possibilities of plays since the clips a re short and the times are close to two possible situations.

Some, I'm just ignoring the coach. Only if it were extended or repetitive would many of those get my attention.
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You're calling a tech at 1:57 for real?

Obviously these are in a vacuum but I am likely to have techs at 0:36, 1:09, 1:21, 1:29, 1:34.

2:00 sounds like he was about to get into tech territory for me, should have let the coach talk a little longer and hang himself.

There are some hilarious ones in there.
@ 1:57 the coach says "you're givin them, etc". To me it insinuates cheating. In a game I may not have T'd him but would have been addressed!

@ 2:15 I wouldn't have T'd him for his comment. As I said, he mentioned getting T'd earlier which means he should be sitting.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:44am
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I have T's @ 1:05, 1:57, and 2:15. @ 2:15 the coach says he was already T'd up.
Why is he standing AND complaining?!
Of those, I only have T for 1:05. I would even think of a T for the other 2.
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