PIAA Pushes It To and Through the NLRB

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Do we get to meet around the water cooler and shoot the breeze?

BillyMac, which one is you?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

BillyMac, which one is you?

The one in the middle.

[Player989random]

Well in good'ole VA I hope it inspires certain association commissioners to, ahem, "Back the **** off" on who I choose to work with. At the state meeting our commissioner said that a lot of other commissioners also wanted to restrict/remove dual-membership, even though VHSL requires the various associations to allow it.

Too much "employer" like power, and yet they want us to pretend we are independent contractors so they enjoy the tax benefits.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Player989random

Well in good'ole VA I hope it inspires certain association commissioners to, ahem, "Back the **** off" on who I choose to work with. At the state meeting our commissioner said that a lot of other commissioners also wanted to restrict/remove dual-membership, even though VHSL requires the various associations to allow it.

Too much "employer" like power, and yet they want us to pretend we are independent contractors so they enjoy the tax benefits.

There was a state meeting?

One organization is already in trouble for trying to prevent an official from belonging to other organizations. If the member chooses to move forward with a lawsuit the member is pretty much guaranteed to win, but the monetary award (absent a punitive award) would not cover lawyers fees.

[Player989random]

VA State HS Commissioner's Meeting. It consisted of Officiating Commissioner's across every sport/event possible. A cluster**** according to my own.

The fact that my football group is full of lawyers, yet no one has realized that restricting dual-membership and having it as a written policy is hilarious if anyone ever challenges them. Not that I'd ever do it, as the payout is pretty low.

[SC Official]

Not sure about the Virginia situation, but I do know that the NCHSAA (North Carolina) and the GHSA (Georgia) do not allow officials to be a member of more than one recognized association. In South Carolina we aren't allowed to be a member of more than one "district" of the South Carolina Basketball Officials Association (which is what the officials that work SCHSL games are members of). If we want to work in the private school league (SCISA), that's an entirely different registration process, governing body, and officials association.

[JRutledge]

The more and more I hear about these stories about what organization you can or cannot belong to because of some stated policy just gives me the appreciation to realize how well off we are here. No one decides who and what we can work for or what organization we belong to. Our state has some issues overall, but telling us where to be is not one of them. In football I belong to 3 organizations. In basketball I belong to 3 organizations as well (some are the same organization but different divisions for a particular sport. No one can tell us if or what we can belong to. Even association membership is not required, but highly recommended. Either way, I like the freedom.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Not sure about the Virginia situation, but I do know that the NCHSAA (North Carolina) and the GHSA (Georgia) do not allow officials to be a member of more than one recognized association. In South Carolina we aren't allowed to be a member of more than one "district" of the South Carolina Basketball Officials Association (which is what the officials that work SCHSL games are members of). If we want to work in the private school league (SCISA), that's an entirely different registration process, governing body, and officials association.

NC and SC have different systems that include a lot of involvement from the state body from what I gather reading various posts.

In VA, games are assigned through associations who elect/select their own commissioners who negotiate contracts with schools and conferences. An association must have at least 6 public schools to be fully recognized by the VHSL and send officials to the state tournament. VHSL has absolutely no say when it comes to private schools.

A lot of politics over the last 7 years has hurt a lot of careers and caused a lot of turmoil; downright ugly at times. This will be my 6th season belonging to 2 different associations, but my first where my "local" association is fully recognized by the VHSL. Luckily there is no animosity between the 2 commissioners for whom I work.