Big Baller Forfeits

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Like you are doing right now?

Exactly. I don't read what this idiot says, I don't watch what he does. Encouraging others to do the same.

If you can't see the difference, perhaps you're no smarter than he is.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Exactly. I don't read what this idiot says, I don't watch what he does. Encouraging others to do the same.

If you can't see the difference, perhaps you're no smarter than he is.

Perhaps I'm not

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Perhaps I'm not

While he said all of this while commenting on something he does not pay attention to. I would take it for what it is worth. Most basketball or sports fans know when certain things are going on outside the game on some level. It does not mean you are obsessed with the topic.

Peace

New situation today: Female referee removed after LaVar Ball threatens to pull his AAU team off court

Apparently the Court Club Camp is running in Vegas and one of the campers whacked LaVar and he forced her to get removed. I'm surprised Ed didn't pull all his refs off the floor for the tournament bending to that shit. And then he got whacked by the replacement guy! That's being a good partner right there.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

New situation today: Female referee removed after LaVar Ball threatens to pull his AAU team off court

Apparently the Court Club Camp is running in Vegas and one of the campers whacked LaVar and he forced her to get removed. I'm surprised Ed didn't pull all his refs off the floor for the tournament bending to that shit. And then he got whacked by the replacement guy! That's being a good partner right there.

This is the story that I saw. The guy stole my Cry Baby line from a few days ago with his #BigCryBaby. I still like BigBawler!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lavar-b...160917511.html

For the record, I have officiated the LV BigTime and the Adidas Super64 in the past. These tourneys change names over the years, but it's still the same deal. These are AAU events in Vegas with the top HS players held during one of the sanctioned NCAA evaluation period for all the major college coaches.
The level of play is darn good. Some of the coaches, players, and fans can be a challenge to handle. Personally, I had a few Ts, but no ejections over the years. Although, I witnessed a few warranted ejections.
I've done these games in both a camp situation as well as non-camp for pay.
I do think that it is difficult for the female officials in the camp situations to be put into these games because the vast majority of them work girls HS or women's JC/D2 and don't see the athleticism or level of physical contact that these boys exhibit. I've seen several coaches and players become frustrated with whistles that are tighter than what they are accustomed to having, but never had anyone be a complete @ss about it.
Btw the reverse is true for me. When I'm asked to work a GV/BV HS double-header, I have to make a conscious effort to evaluate contact at an appropriate level for the girls contest. I have made the mistake of letting GV games be too physical and had some unhappy coaches/players.

[Nevadaref]

Decided to post the last few paragraphs of the article for everyone on the forum.
The word is getting out that Lavar is the problem.
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"It’s unclear if Ball’s complaints are valid, or if they’re completely unfounded. But his history suggests that most of the fault here lies with him, and not the referee. Plus, even if the game was officiated poorly, it doesn’t at all excuse his behavior.

Last weekend, the Big Ballers forfeited a game they were winning in the second half when LaVar forced his players to pack up their bags in the middle of the game and leave the gym.

On Friday, he halted a game and forced Adidas — a massive company with control of this entire AAU event — to give into his demands and replace a referee in the middle of a game. That’s unheard of it. And it’s ridiculous.

Why any kid would want to play for LaVar’s AAU team is a mystery. It’s clearly not helping their development as basketball players. And they can’t enjoy having their games ruined by a coach who can’t keep his mouth shut. Whether there is any fallout from this mess remains to be seen."

The plot thickens. 100 bucks says Ed Rush is the "source".

Adidas officials pressure referees to avoid calling technical fouls on LaVar Ball

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This is the story that I saw. The guy stole my Cry Baby line from a few days ago with his #BigCryBaby. I still like BigBawler!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lavar-b...160917511.html

For the record, I have officiated the LV BigTime and the Adidas Super64 in the past. These tourneys change names over the years, but it's still the same deal. These are AAU events in Vegas with the top HS players held during one of the sanctioned NCAA evaluation period for all the major college coaches.
The level of play is darn good. Some of the coaches, players, and fans can be a challenge to handle. Personally, I had a few Ts, but no ejections over the years. Although, I witnessed a few warranted ejections.
I've done these games in both a camp situation as well as non-camp for pay.
I do think that it is difficult for the female officials in the camp situations to be put into these games because the vast majority of them work girls HS or women's JC/D2 and don't see the athleticism or level of physical contact that these boys exhibit. I've seen several coaches and players become frustrated with whistles that are tighter than what they are accustomed to having, but never had anyone be a complete @ss about it.
Btw the reverse is true for me. When I'm asked to work a GV/BV HS double-header, I have to make a conscious effort to evaluate contact at an appropriate level for the girls contest. I have made the mistake of letting GV games be too physical and had some unhappy coaches/players.

I call advantage / disadvantage. I don't call every bump as some girls officials do. Couldn't care less if coaches and players are unhappy.

She's a D1 official. She can work a game like this 7 days a week.

The whole thing is shameful. At the camp where I was a clinician this past weekend, a coach like this would've been sent home.

Part III: The Saga Continues

Two women part of referee crew in Big Baller Brand game at Adidas Uprising Summer Championships

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I call advantage / disadvantage. I don't call every bump as some girls officials do. Couldn't care less if coaches and players are unhappy.

She's a D1 official. She can work a game like this 7 days a week.

The whole thing is shameful. At the camp where I was a clinician this past weekend, a coach like this would've been sent home.

I watched the first 8 minutes of the contest to which another poster provided the video below. I thought that she was doing a nice job. The couple of things which I would criticize were both done by her male crew members.

In fact, she makes a crew saving call for the first FTs of the game as C after a goofy rotation situation with a steal on the other end leads to a 1v1 run-out while the crew is poorly positioned.

After that I didn't need to see any more. Lavar is a fool.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

New situation today: Female referee removed after LaVar Ball threatens to pull his AAU team off court

Apparently the Court Club Camp is running in Vegas and one of the campers whacked LaVar and he forced her to get removed. I'm surprised Ed didn't pull all his refs off the floor for the tournament bending to that shit. And then he got whacked by the replacement guy! That's being a good partner right there.

Being good partners would've meant walking off with that female official.

[ReffingAce]

Originally Posted by rich

being good partners would've meant walking off with that female official.

+1

[sj]

Originally Posted by Rich

Being good partners would've meant walking off with that female official.

Correct on this. They may not have thought to do it in the moment so some allowance can be made for the two of them. But they would have scored points with the clinicians had they done so.

The situations where it's needed to stick up for a fellow official can take many different forms. Both on and off the court. Recognizing those situations and then following through by standing up for a fellow official is important not only for the official you're standing up for but for officiating as a whole.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by sj

Correct on this. They may not have thought to do it in the moment so some allowance can be made for the two of them. But they would have scored points with the clinicians had they done so.

The situations where it's needed to stick up for a fellow official can take many different forms. Both on and off the court. Recognizing those situations and then following through by standing up for a fellow official is important not only for the official you're standing up for but for officiating as a whole.

Not being there, I don't think we can say that. Who knows what those clinicians told them to do. I'd like to think the clinicians themselves would pull the crew from the court with what happened, but they didn't.