Lebron pass to himself Game 4 NBA Finals

[Mbilica]

You can rule that player and team control ended when Lebron threw it against the backboard, if you interpret the throw as a Try. That would allow him to run up to it and rebound it and shoot or dribble again. Clearly, this wasn't a Try, however...

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[bob jenkins]

Other codes (more-or-less) explicitly allow the offense to use the offensive backboard as part of this play. It's not a "pass to one's self" (which, by definition, is impossible) and it's not a dribbling violation.

I assume the NBA rules have the same general concept.

[soadyp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Other codes (more-or-less) explicitly allow the offense to use the offensive backboard as part of this play. It's not a "pass to one's self" (which, by definition, is impossible) and it's not a dribbling violation.

I assume the NBA rules have the same general concept.

Ok lets agree that there is no pass to one's self. I'll just refer to that as a dribble.
So did the first dribble end or did the dribble just continue after he placed 2 hands on the ball then placed his right hand under the ball. Why does being in the air change that ? Why is that not double dribble ?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by soadyp

Ok lets agree that there is no pass to one's self. I'll just refer to that as a dribble.
So did the first dribble end or did the dribble just continue after he placed 2 hands on the ball then placed his right hand under the ball. Why does being in the air change that ? Why is that not double dribble ?

Being in the air doesn't change anything. Throwing the ball off the offense's backboard does.

It's not a particularly unusual play -- if it was illegal, it would have been called.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Being in the air doesn't change anything. Throwing the ball off the offense's backboard does. It's not a particularly unusual play -- if it was illegal, it would have been called.

Legal, or illegal, for NFHS rules, when the official is 100% sure that it wasn't a try?

[Mbilica]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Legal, or illegal, for NFHS rules (when the official is 100% sure that it wasn't a try?

Legal in NFHS. Give the benefit of the doubt to the offense if unsure on whether or not it is a Try.

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[ODog]

NFHS Rule 4-15-1: "... It is not part of a dribble when a ball touches a player's own backboard."

So it's legal in high school and below, and the NBA is more permissive in nearly every conceivable way, so ... LEGAL!

[soadyp]

Originally Posted by Mbilica

You can rule that player and team control ended when Lebron threw it against the backboard, if you interpret the throw as a Try. That would allow him to run up to it and rebound it and shoot or dribble again. Clearly, this wasn't a Try, however...

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Ok I think we agree he was not attempting a shot. Therefore....