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Old Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:06am
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I'd like to hear your opinion as a veteran ref -- how simultaneously do techs have to happen to offset in your mind?
To me they were 2 separate acts because of the time in between and b/c West made dead ball contact to Irving immediately after the tie-up, then Thompson came in and committed his infraction.
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Old Wed Jun 14, 2017, 02:53pm
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No one mentioned the slapping of Lebron's arm by West after the initial altercation. Looked like a good wack to me and should have resulted in another technical on West.
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Old Wed Jun 14, 2017, 02:58pm
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To me they were 2 separate acts because of the time in between and b/c West made dead ball contact to Irving immediately after the tie-up, then Thompson came in and committed his infraction.
So anything that is two separate actions? Unless they happen almost simultaneously they won't offset? Looks to me about 2 seconds between West getting the first and Thompson coming in. At some point is it easier to say that these two offset instead of shooting three techs in a row on different ends of the floor because none of them offset?
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Old Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:29pm
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So anything that is two separate actions? Unless they happen almost simultaneously they won't offset? Looks to me about 2 seconds between West getting the first and Thompson coming in. At some point is it easier to say that these two offset instead of shooting three techs in a row on different ends of the floor because none of them offset?
Guess it all depends. In NCAA-M, West and JR Smith would have each received Contact Dead Ball Technicals in addition to Thompson's unsporting T, so I definitely would have delineated each offense. In HS, still may have delineated for the fact that West made contact with Irving for one offense, then Thompson coming in after that action.
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Old Wed Jun 14, 2017, 03:50pm
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Guess it all depends. In NCAA-M, West and JR Smith would have each received Contact Dead Ball Technicals in addition to Thompson's unsporting T, so I definitely would have delineated each offense. In HS, still may have delineated for the fact that West made contact with Irving for one offense, then Thompson coming in after that action.
I didn't see the play, but it seems as thought next year in NCAA-W these would offset (except for the one that is "left over"):

Recommend permitting the cancellation of equal foul penalties during the same dead-ball period.
Rationale: Eliminate confusion and delays caused by “layered plays” and allow for efficient adjudication of these situations.
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