Out of bounds ruling?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by J7V3M

The ball should go to my team since the opposing team knocked it out regardless of whether I was there.

Back in ancient times, if this were a throwin play (which it isn't), the throwin team would lose the ball because the inbounder "caused" the ball to go out of bounds because the inbounder threw the ball off an opponent who was out of bounds.

It always amazes me that some vestige of this ancient rule, in one form, or another, hangs around even though the rule changed over thirty years ago.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Back in ancient times, if this were a throwin play (which it isn't), the throwin team would lose the ball because the inbounder "caused" the ball to go out of bounds because the inbounder threw the ball off an opponent who was out of bounds.

It always amazes me that some vestige of this ancient rule, in one form, or another, hangs around even though the rule changed over thirty years ago.

What is ancient times? And what rule set?

That frankly doesn't make much sense as an opponent should not be out of bounds on an inbound play. (Are you sure you aren't crossing this with the ball touching an out of bounds teammate, which would be a violation on the inbounder for not throwing the ball into play?)

[Altor]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

(Are you sure you aren't crossing this with the ball touching an out of bounds teammate, which would be a violation on the inbounder for not throwing the ball into play?)

What BillyMac was describing was an interpretation of the rule you cite. Say the inbounder threw the ball across the court (we aren't talking about a defender on the same sideline or endline as the throw-in spot) and the defense touched the ball while OOB. The ruling was this was a throw-in violation for not throwing the ball directly into play and was not an OOB violation on the defense.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Altor

What BillyMac was describing was an interpretation of the rule you cite. Say the inbounder threw the ball across the court (we aren't talking about a defender on the same sideline or endline as the throw-in spot) and the defense touched the ball while OOB. The ruling was this was a throw-in violation for not throwing the ball directly into play and was not an OOB violation on the defense.

Yes, that was the an "interpretation" of the rule for 1-2 years.....a very bad interpretation too.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes, that was the an "interpretation" of the rule for 1-2 years.....a very bad interpretation too.

Interesting. And mind boggling.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

What is ancient times? And what rule set?

Early 1980's. NFHS.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Early 1980's. NFHS.

Interesting. May have been in effect while I was playing. Did a coach get Td up every time it was applied?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Did a coach get Td up every time it was applied?

It really wasn't a big deal at the time.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits a wall out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits the scorer's table out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits the police officer in the corner out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits a coach out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits a substitute on the bench out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Team A inbounder throws the ball and it hits an opponent player out of bounds. Team B gets the ball at the original throwin spot.

Who's going to complain? Do you really think that coaches are that smart?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Early 1980's. NFHS.

I thought it was in the 90s....after I started officiating.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I thought it was in the 90s ...

You could be right. Like I said, ancient times.