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Old Fri Jun 02, 2017, 07:25am
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I honestly can't see why or how anyone would be upset with extending the box. We have so much administrative nonsense that the NFHS requires us to deal with, and this is making our job easier. The only thing different for me is that now the coach can come down to the end line and chew my ass when I'm at L and I can't penalize him for being outside the box, but I can now officially warn or perhaps even whack him for his behavior.

Comparing sports is apples-to-oranges, as JRut noted.
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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 09:50am
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This Horse Won't Die Anytime Soon, I Guess

Seems as though the NFHS came out with somewhat of a revision to its "Two-Handed Reporting" protocol yesterday. The second to last stipification seems a little odd, but nothing that can't be sorted out in real life.

www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/two-hand-foul-reporting/

Two-hand Foul Reporting
By NFHS on June 07, 2017

TWO-HAND FOUL REPORTING
(Rule 2-9-1 Signals)

The Official will move to the designated reporting area on the floor.

Make sure that you have the attention of the scorer prior to giving the numbers.

Indicate the color of the jersey for the player who fouled.

The Official shall report fouls to the scorer by using two hands to display the jersey number of the person who committed the foul.

The official’s right hand will indicate the first digit of the number or the tens and the left hand will indicate the second digit of the number or the ones.

The official shall extend the arms shoulder high towards the table to display the numbers.

The digits of the number should be displayed at the same time.

When reporting, the official shall verbalize the number as twenty-four not two-four.

The scorer will view the number in a left-to-right sequence.

Indicate the type of foul using the proper signal.

If one, two or three free throws are to be attempted, indicate the number of free throws by using one hand.

If the team is in the bonus for the seventh, eight of ninth foul, indicate the bonus situation raising both hands and display a raised index finger on each hand.

If the foul is a team control foul, after the official signals the specific type of foul, the official will turn and signal such with an extended arm, closed fist parallel to the table and side line, indicating no free throws will be attempted.

After reporting and if no free throws are to be attempted, the official will turn from the table and indicate the throw-in spot to resume play.
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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 10:18am
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What was the revision? Sounds like this is the same things we were asked to do without two hands being used?

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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 10:34am
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The last three paragraphs seem to have been added with the date stamp of June 7 to what was released to us last week.

Not intending at all to be critical of this or overly-analytical...just reporting what the news is.
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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 10:50am
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The last three paragraphs seem to have been added with the date stamp of June 7 to what was released to us last week.

Not intending at all to be critical of this or overly-analytical...just reporting what the news is.
I did not see a difference, but I was not looking for one either. It looks very much like the same document they released when they made the change. I will have to go back to notice they added some things.

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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 11:48am
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Forgive me if this has been posted already . . .
An NFHS PowerPoint on the two rule changes relevant to the Fashion Police changes came out on their Arbiter Central Hub on June 4. I just know there are lots of you interested in this. Not that I am...just reporting the news.

https://nfhs-basketball.arbitersport...rm-Information
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Old Thu Jun 08, 2017, 12:21pm
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Forgive me if this has been posted already . . .
An NFHS PowerPoint on the two rule changes relevant to the Fashion Police changes came out on their Arbiter Central Hub on June 4. I just know there are lots of you interested in this. Not that I am...just reporting the news.

https://nfhs-basketball.arbitersport...rm-Information
can you summarize, for those of us who do not have access to the NFHS group on Arbiter.
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Old Tue Nov 07, 2017, 05:17pm
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Unlisted change to NFHS R9-S1-A3c.

For those have been wondering why I have been mostly quiet for almost a year, there have been some changes in my life that have just made me take a more of the attitude of a quiet bystander.

None-the-less, while reading the NFHS and NCAA Men's and Women's Rules Books last night I came across a change in NFHS R9-S1-A3c which was not made in NCAA Men's and Women's R9-S1-A1f.

Last year:

NFHS R9-S1-A3c: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower no opponent shall disconcert the free thrower."

NCAA Men's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower."

NCAA Women's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunts, baits, gestures or delays) the free-thrower."


This year:

NFHS R9-S1-A3c: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower no opponent shall distract the free thrower."

NCAA Men's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower."

NCAA Women's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunts, baits, gestures or delays) the free-thrower."


Can anyone spot the change? Let the fun begin!

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Old Tue Nov 07, 2017, 06:25pm
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For those have been wondering why I have been mostly quiet for almost a year, there have been some changes in my life that have just made me take a more of the attitude of a quiet bystander.

None-the-less, while reading the NFHS and NCAA Men's and Women's Rules Books last night I came across a change in NFHS R9-S1-A3c which was not made in NCAA Men's and Women's R9-S1-A1f.

Last year:

NFHS R9-S1-A3c: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower no opponent shall disconcert the free thrower."

NCAA Men's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower."

NCAA Women's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunts, baits, gestures or delays) the free-thrower."


This year:

NFHS R9-S1-A3c: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower no opponent shall distract the free thrower."

NCAA Men's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunt, bait, gesture or delay) the free-thrower."

NCAA Women's R9-S1-A1f: "After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free-thrower, it is a violation when an opponent disconcerts (e.g. taunts, baits, gestures or delays) the free-thrower."


Can anyone spot the change? Let the fun begin!

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Being a high school official I didn't look hard at any but the NFHS part, where I found they changed the word "disconcert" to "distract".

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Old Tue Nov 07, 2017, 07:30pm
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Being a high school official I didn't look hard at any but the NFHS part, where I found they changed the word "disconcert" to "distract".

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We have a winner!

The question now is: Why was the change made?

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